BadArm on 28/10/2002 at 04:37
I can't believe it, but now I'm having a major problem in this mission. Rather than start my own thread, I'm bringing this one to the top, so I can ask about advice here.
I'm playing on easy. I can't find Layne or any info about him either. Where is Layne? Is he the headless man in his work shop?
Nightwalker, above you mention a bed in Laynes room, what bed? There's no bed in his work shop, does Layne have another place some where? I also read there's a hidden switch in Laynes work shop on the 2nd floor. I can't find it, where on the 2nd floor?
I'm beginning to think I'm having a major system problem here. Either that or I keep missing things you all are telling me about. I still never found the Oroboris in Cromsblade, or a way into the room with the sword. I'm going to try that again. But before I conclude I'm having a system problem, can someone try and help me with this mission. :(
ShadowWolf421 on 28/10/2002 at 06:12
ya never find layne.
in his workshop there;s a staircase, go up it and [SPOILER]on the second floor theres a whol wall of boxes, uses your sword on them and frob the torch in side the alcove. then go down the stairs and look on the side of the staircase[/SPOILER]
go thru here and youll find the bedroom
Norman Druart on 28/10/2002 at 06:21
BadArm,
You seem to be burning through fan missions at a pretty fast rate. As a piece of general playing advice, I recommend exploring a mission's area at a more leisurely pace to get a feel for the lay of the land before launching into the objectives. Also, in Thief, more than in any other game I know, the devil's in the details so I examine most every room and object carefully. :thumb:
Now as for KT, the headless corpse is Layne. To find the bedroom in his workshop, go upstairs to the big stack of crates against the wall. You can't pick them up but you can nudge them out of the way. When you've frobbed the trigger in that room, go back downstairs to find the bedroom.
BadArm on 28/10/2002 at 07:28
Thanks guys. I see that once again I have to do something I would have never thought of doing, because in neither T1 or T2 did you ever have to do things like this. I'm referring to bashing doors down in Croms Blade, and now having to bash crates in KT. In general, whenever I get a new game it takes me a while to figure out what's possible and what isn't. Usually, once I realize this things go much better. For example, in a game like EF if a door doesn't open up on it's own, or with an easy to find remote switch, you're not supposed to go through it. Then you get more complex games, such as Deus Ex and Thief, where it's harder to figure out, but if a door or object doesn't highlight, then you're not supposed to do anything with it. I'm now seeing that this doesn't hold true for Thief FMs. I'll remember this for other missions.
Yeah, I am burning through FMs rather quickly. I have a lot of time on my hands these days. The other thing is I've been starting new missions while waiting for answers to problems I've encountered. I am a little worried about running out of FMs soon and then having nothing new to do, so I'll try and slow down. But I like moving fast. Thanks anyway. :)
I still need to find the train to get home in Croms Blade. I'm going to go look for that, and then I'll look for the bedroom in Layne's work shop. I also still need to go into the Cathedral. Actually, I may not really need to go in there on easy mode, but since I can, I want to. :)
BadArm on 28/10/2002 at 10:42
Ahh, finally finished this one too. Thanks again for all the help. Now, I woder if I should tackle Calendra's Legacy again or move on. Hmm, it's a tough decision. :erg:
Clock on 22/12/2002 at 22:16
I hate it when this happens. I browsed over other threads for this FM and couldn't find any reference to my problem.
I know as soon as I pick up the cultivator, bedlam occurs outside and I have to maneuver through black skulls and mecho-beasts. So I want to have all objectives ticked off before I make that move.
Everything is done except for the loot quota!! I've got 1307/1692 and I need at least 1500. Now I thought I did a good job with all the sneaky merchandise, [SPOILER]including the ring in the flower pot and the loot in the submerged crypt[/SPOILER] but apparently thats not enough. If there's a loot list out there, could someone direct me. Other than that, perhaps a suggestion for one of the trickier spots. I also found the loot [SPOILER]beside the building outside the jail, on the second floor. And it took me forever to sneak up there :)[/SPOILER]
Norman Druart on 22/12/2002 at 22:22
How about [SPOILER]the loot in the abandoned houses near the cathedral at the end of the canal, the hotel, the prostitutes' rooms, or the City Council building?[/SPOILER]
Clock on 22/12/2002 at 23:54
Those areas I think I covered pretty thoroughly. But I did find a tiny something that put me over the objective.
[SPOILER]A necklace around the statue of the mechanist over in the museum. Damn......that's not the first time I missed loot that way.[/SPOILER]
Melissa on 30/12/2002 at 04:40
Hello!
I'm near the end of the mission and now I'd love some help getting back to the boat. Playing on hard (I likes me blackjackin'!):
[SPOILER]In the very beginning, I found the hidden boat by the skeleton, and there's the other boat in the water filled room, also near the beginning. I triggered the trap in the cathedral (WAY cool, btw!), then went out to the courtyard and escaped through the wood covered hole back into the water. I let it take me to the waterfall, went up the ladder, then roped up to the pagan house. Up the ladder is nothing, just a view of nasties waiting to get me. Down the other ladder is a dead guard and a message, and an unpickable door (the same as the other side, I assume).
Do I have to work my way all the way back to the beginning or is there another exit that I'm missing?[/SPOILER]
Nevermind:
[SPOILER]I just ran like a screaming freak until I could jump into the original canal and lose the death maskers and the spiders on my tail. Then creep to the first pump station and out the back door to the moat and the boat :D[/SPOILER]
Thanks!
-M
paulben on 19/1/2003 at 05:22
OK, no one seems to be having my problem yet, so I guess I gave up too easily...And to think I was proud of myself for getting this far with no help! :cheeky:
[SPOILER]I read some other threads and see that Layne has no head so I can't talk to him or anything...but where is this guy with no head?? Here's kind of where I am: I'm playing on Hard. I've gotten some loot, grabbed the cultivator, and watched the ensuing melee with glee. Then I pulled two floating Mech-haunts out of the air so they could rest in relative peace on terra firma. There are patrols around the other side of the bridge, so I know I must avoid them, but I can't think of where else to go. I don't have a loot quota anymore, and now I'm allowed to kill people, I guess, but I'm kind of foundering. Where's this dude?[/SPOILER]
