elkston on 30/10/2007 at 03:52
Quote Posted by dkessler
honestly, just jump/mantle over it and grab onto the ladder.
that is what I did...
That's what I did too ... and to expand:
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Before I climbed up the ladder behind the crown, I shot a rope arrow into one of the wooden posts that protrude form the 3rd story windows. The rope should hang down just enough so that you can jump onto it from the 2nd story window.
So -- climb the ladder to the 2nd floor, then grab the rope arrow you shot earlier to reach the third floor where the boss is. And some hints on taking out the "Lich". He is very vulnerable to backstab. So what you should do is douse all the fires burning in the room and then backstab him. I was able to kill him in two hits -- one a big backstab and the other just a quick tap.
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BTW, this was my favorite part of the mission and I did it about "half way" through my adventure. Everything else seemed like an anti-climax after this and I thought the key-hunt/backtracking got stale after a while.
I did like what you had to do about Nestor, though. Sort of reminded me of
The Godfather . I am still not sure why the mission is called
The Ultima Ratio. Maybe there was a scroll I missed or some hidden meaning in the existing ones that I did not grasp.
Thanks MH! for the long (nearly 5hrs) and mostly interesting mission!
Dafydd on 30/10/2007 at 04:46
Thanks, dkessler and elkston; I don't know why I couldn't get over it the first time, but when I backed far off and did a running jump, I finally cleared it. I've now done that whole section of the mission... all I need is some more secrets, a bit more loot, and to find those explosive charges -- none of which I've found so far!
Dafydd
bob_doe_nz on 30/10/2007 at 07:42
Quote Posted by Dafydd
explosive charges -- none of which I've found so far!
Dafydd
If your on expert...
When you first use the rope arrows to get into the abandoned building with the spiders, one is in the adjoining rooms.The other is
where the zombies are. Up top with the glowing apparition in one corner.Dussander on 30/10/2007 at 15:38
Around two thirds into the mission, watchmen and guards in the street stopped caring that I was walking about, in the area after the large gate leading to the beginning, up to the double doors leading to the clocktower. In the clocktower/library/harbour/start area they reacted to me. Even the Hammerite at the church didn't care that I walked straight into it - and I jumped in his face to rub it in.
Is this normal?
elkston on 30/10/2007 at 17:39
Quote Posted by Dussander
Around two thirds into the mission, watchmen and guards in the street stopped caring that I was walking about, in the area after the large gate leading to the beginning, up to the double doors leading to the clocktower. In the clocktower/library/harbour/start area they reacted to me. Even the Hammerite at the church didn't care that I walked straight into it - and I jumped in his face to rub it in.
Is this normal?
Wow! You know, I noticed this too. Towards the "last part" of the mission when I was doing a lot of carefree back-and-forth to complete objectives, I was able to get awfully close to some of the guards without alerting them.
Now I didn't press my luck by getting right into their face, but it just seemed like their awarness really dropped of compared to the earlier parts of the missions. Maybe I just got lucky (I was kind of rushing and didn't feel like sneaking), but it did seem very generous.
P.S. - funny thing-->
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Don't ever get on the wrong side of the chef at that resturant though! He will chase you till the end of days and his fists are lethal!
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Dafydd on 31/10/2007 at 12:31
Thanks, bob_doe_nz; I was finally able to finish -- after a huge side-quest involving some female Russian thief!
The most annoying part was -- I didn't discover the lever that opens the second gate until I had finished everything and was trucking towards the docks. I looked to the right coming out of the guardhouse, and there it was!
Yeesh. God only knows how many times I had to jump down, take a couple points damage, then go through the furshlugginer graveyard to get back inside. I even looked around the area earlier but somehow failed to spot it.
:eek: :nono: :p
Dafydd
gt_mule on 1/11/2007 at 12:13
I found the poison arrow for Nestor in the men's bathroom, but the door in the cathedral is still locked. Is there another key hiding somewhere?
snowcap21 on 1/11/2007 at 12:24
Erm, didn't you get the key from him? If not: He's sitting in the upstairs bar of the restaurant. If you shoot him with the arrow, you can take the key from him.
Dafydd on 1/11/2007 at 12:24
(Gt_mule, did you grab the key from nearby Nestor's body?)
I was able to ghost all of the mission except for the two killings. While killing is allowed if (a) there is a specific objective to do so, and (b) no one, including the victim, is alerted, both killings failed this two-pronged test... thus both constitute ghost busts. Neither is avoidable, either; so it's just not ghostable.
And in both cases, there were relatively easy fixes that could have rendered the whole mission ghostable, had the author wanted it to be (and had he been able to get ghost-testing support in Germany, about which I have no idea). Darn.
Most players don't like ghosting anyway; but for us few diehards who do, it's always frustrating when we can ghost nearly all of a really long and difficult mission -- except for one or two small instances where it just can't be done!
Dafydd
nickie on 8/11/2007 at 20:03
Well, I played 5.5 hours of the German version and was ridiculously happy to find the English version had come out once I'd got my internet back and that my saved games were fine with the translated version and I could see what I was supposed to be doing. I've finished on normal but see that expert opens up a whole new set of objectives so will definitely be coming back to play this again.
One thing though, I couldn't get into the green doors which I'm guessing was the factory. Is that right on normal or did I miss a key? I certainly missed 4 secrets. I love it when different things happen on different settings. Its like getting an extra game to play. Thanks so much for this fm MH.TheFreak - it was great, though I have lost a lot of weight with all the running around! :D
