Dafydd on 25/6/2005 at 11:05

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I simply cannot get into the tavern without being spotted by that damned south-tower jail guard!

Whether I swim west along the main canal or south past the jail; even if I put out both torches on the wall on the north side of the main canal and also the torch by the tavern back door, no matter how slowly I creep or quickly I run, every damned time that same guard spots me and goes into the frustration dance.

Since I'm ghosting, that means that unless there is another way in, the tavern is off the list, along with the $425 in there. Or maybe more, if there's a secret; I didn't find one inside, but I did miss two, so who knows?

Is there anything in the tavern besides that loot? Is there a secret? Is there another objective? Is there any way in besides the canal route?

I only need $235 to clear the requirement, and I have 7 of 9 secrets. Does anyone have a list of secrets? I think I've been in every building, though I'm still not sure about the Collector Tower -- what's in there? Maybe I'll remember.

This is really frustrating. The architecture is great, and it's a good mission to ghost... but I'm soo-o-o-o-oooo close but not quite there...!

Any other caches of loot I may have missed? I got the jewelry store vault already, plus every secret mentioned in here (I found all except one of them on my own).

Thanks,

Dafydd

Dafydd on 25/6/2005 at 12:30

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Thanks, LeBaron, but -- your sneaksie route got me to the grounds of the tavern nicely, but now I have the problem of the window: that same pesky guard is staring directly at it... and he sees me any time I try to go through. Even when I climbed up the side, dropped off onto the inch-wide ledge to the side of the window, then darted through, he still saw me and alerted!

I believe all the doors are locked and unpickable, so there's no way in but that way. This is maddening.

(I can't take out the guard because that would bust my ghost.)

Thanks, I'm closer... it's so tantalizing! But I'm stumped how to get inside any other way.

Dafydd

JACKofTrades on 25/6/2005 at 13:58

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One secret and 325 loot left to go. Upstairs in the clinic, [SPOILER]there are two frobbable books in the bookcase. The one on the right doesn't do anything that I can discover.[/SPOILER] What am I missing here?

ffox on 25/6/2005 at 16:26

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@Dafydd - are you ghosters allowed to hack the door open?

uncadonego on 25/6/2005 at 19:06

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Dafydd-don't give up! You ghosters always tell me to not think about ghosters when I make a mission, so I don't! Nightwalker even mentioned ghosters during beta, but I didn't change certain things because you ghosters say you don't want that. PM me with what you have and where you've been, and I'll let you know if you still have some potential loot that won't bust the ghost.

JACKofTrades-I simply forgot to write the readable for that book! Don't worry about it. ShadowWolf421 reminded me during beta, and I still forgot!

UliB-I was contemplating making the machines in the bridgehouse work, but changed my mind. I think in the next mission I'm making I will have working machines though.

Bikerdude-It's partly based on two real life experiences, but I just like to put one or two "human" readables in my missions for a couple of reasons. One is that the whole game shouldn't be exclusively about Garrett, because he is intruding on other peoples' lives, so it should be as much about them as him. Secondly, I just don't want it to be about mechanically running through the game to hear loot sounds and objective complete sounds. Some people don't like my long readables, but it's usually not necessary to read them for an objective.

LeBaron-you sneaky devil! You found a way out of the world! There's usually always somewhere the author overlooks. ;)