Vipercat on 6/5/2007 at 14:10
I never thought I would say it but this is the first time I have not enjoyed a Thief FM !:(
It has nice textures and all that but it is not very Thief like and very boring to play. If I wanted to play a game like this I would have played Quake or Unreal Tournament:weird:
Just my opinion its not an attack on the Author
coreyb2 on 6/5/2007 at 15:08
[SPOILER]Just a simple question. are all 4 of the listed to kill zombies??? I have been avoiding the zombies as they are not easy to kill. Had to fight with the woman zombie and finally managed to kill her and the objective ticked off that I had killed ALI (what ever the name is) so now I'm wondering if all the kills listed are zombies? [/SPOILER] Thanks
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Cardia on 6/5/2007 at 16:31
Quote Posted by coreyb2
[SPOILER]Just a simple question. are all 4 of the listed to kill zombies??? I have been avoiding the zombies as they are not easy to kill. Had to fight with the woman zombie and finally managed to kill her and the objective ticked off that I had killed ALI (what ever the name is) so now I'm wondering if all the kills listed are zombies? [/SPOILER] Thanks
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Yes all bosses are zombies except Raimundo that is an undead hammerite
shadows on 6/5/2007 at 16:32
Quote Posted by coreyb2
[SPOILER]Just a simple question. are all 4 of the listed to kill zombies??? [/SPOILER] Thanks
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coreyb2 on 6/5/2007 at 16:51
Thanks guys for the information, now I have to go back and find those zombies...did I say thanks...oh dang. I thought this was hard before now that's getting harder. I do still have my potions left and over 100 arrows
guess I'll need them now. :(
taffedinthehead on 6/5/2007 at 17:08
Great Mission, Cardia! I don't know what people are whining about - if you don't like this style, then simply don't play it. You don't have to come here and let everyone know that you personally don't like it.
Anyway, I found this mission to be pretty simple, provided you are patient. I have been killing the undead for years now (what are we up to, like 700 FMs now or something!? That's ALOT of practice!) Perhaps the people who dislike this level simply haven't spent much time fencing with haunts.
For those who want some help, the TIPS provided in the FM should get you started. Also:
1) Strike from the dark whenever possible. Even if a skeleton is walking right toward you, you can hit them repeatedly without them attacking you if you time it right and they never see you (have to be PITCH black to do this).
2) Strke from a doorway/corner - as they are about to turn the corner or enter the door, strike from around the wall - again, you can kill them with well-timed repeated strikes before they ever even see you. You have to be in full dark, though.
3) MASTER THE CIRCLE STRAFE. Until you do, you will die 1,000 deaths trying to attack from the front. As 99.9% of THIEF enemies are right-handed, always circle around them clockwise, circle around to their back, then continue circle-strafing while they try to turn and face you. Just keep doing this and hacking away. DO NOT LET THEIR SWORD ARM GET CLOSE TO YOU. Even if you are behind them, they can still hit you with a back-swing. To prevent this, you have to move backwards AND forwards a little each way at a time while continuing to strafe clockwise. Sometimes they will leap away - just run toward their back and continue strafing. Don't engage an enemy this way close to a wall or object that keeps you from making full circles. While circle-strafing, try to keep them turned away from you and stay as far to their left hand (non-sword hand) as you can. If you strafe TOO far toward the left, though, they will start to turn toward you the opposite direction, and then you are toast! If this happens, try to quickly strafe back counterclockwise until they start turning toward you from that direction again. Or, simply back up and run around their right side again and start the process over. You should practice this alot if you want to increase your effectiveness in fighting. Once you've mastered this (especially with haunts, skeletons, and hammers) you'll NEVER run from a guard that has spotted you again!
4) Try to take on as small groups as possible. When I see a patroll of two or more in a room, I like to try to get ONE to notice me and walk my way. I lure the one as far away from the others as I can and then kill him so his buddies don't join in. If you're good, you can take on two enemies at a time with the circle-strafe - but three or more is MUCH more challenging.
5) Eliminate archers first. If you come to a room with archers AND swords - try to take out the archers before going in and engaging the swords.
6) Archers are easy to kill - not only does one arrow kill an unalert archer, but if you can run right up to them, you can kill them in four or five strokes before they can ever shoot at you.
7) Save flashbombs/fire arrows/and mines for groups. Use your flashbombs and firearrows to take points off of multiple targets as they are grouped together.
8) Remember, if you can manage to sneak up behind an enemy, one overhead slash with the sword will kill them. Just be aware that if you do this in the presence of other enemies, they will come to investigate.
This level is pretty simple, once you get used to fighting without fear. You are a warrior! Never run from a fight! Learn from it! If you die, restart from your last quick-save! That's what it's for!
Now for ruin and for the red dawn! CHARGE!!! :thumb:
Cardia on 6/5/2007 at 18:24
I´m glad to know that there is people who like this kind of Challenge, let´s not make Garret face all the time the same situations, besides this mission is not only gameplay but also Architecture, and its ambient, this is my favourite mission,not only because i´m satisfied with my architecture but also i´ve made a gameplay that is playable , i enjoy to play my mission;) , i hope that many people have enjoyed as well. Believe me this mission took me a lot of work:sweat:.
Taffedinhehead thanks for your compliment:thumb:
Hope Vincent on 6/5/2007 at 21:42
Hello Ghostbusters,
I have 3 bars of life left and 1 inv. potion. Finished everything except Alfredo. Where or in which direction is he? Help Please.:confused: :cool:
Thanxs,
Hope Vincent
coreyb2 on 6/5/2007 at 23:00
[SPOILER]I'm playing on Hard and I found Alfredo down the step from the room that I called skull room because a platform in the room is lined with skulls. I lured him up the steps into the room and was able to kill him there without the skeltons chasing me. I've got all but Arnaldo and I found him but having a problem getting at him. Good Luck[/SPOILER]coreyb2
Lightningline on 6/5/2007 at 23:41
Cardia1 said from the start that this is not a typical thief mission. So what did some of you expect ? I actually liked it. It kept me busy for at least 2 hours including re-loads and such. The only complaint I had is the game ended as soon as I completed all objectives except getting back to the gate I started at. As soon as I found the last bit of loot it was over. I would have liked to destroy all the AI before I went back to the gate and ended the mission. Maybe I will go back to before I grab the horn and grab that last bit of loot.
Thanks for the hard work Cardia. I will be looking forward to your next mission.:)
