t2x mission "the cure" is too dark

Luthien on 5/3/2018 at 20:55

Yeah, if - in ~18 years - you haven't noticed that the only resolution that does not take x seconds to switch between the map and back to the game is 640x480, you can't have played Thief one tenth as much as I have. Thank you very much for the arrogance and zero technical knowledge ("too dark = it must be the monitor").

R Soul on 5/3/2018 at 21:21

Updating to NewDark is highly recommended. I can't see any reason why you should be having a problem in this mission but not in others, but updating to NewDark will help with almost all technical problems.

You can use Tafferpatcher, but the all singing all dancing options may be a bit overwhelming. Since you're nearing the end of an FM and probably just want to keep going, download the 1.25 package here:
(http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146448&highlight=newdark+1.25)

Open that zip file, then open new_dark.zip. Extract the 5 items there to your Thief2 folder (the doc folder is optional).
Next, go back to the top level of this file and open contrib.zip. All 9 items in there should also be extracted into your Thief2 folder.

That should be it. If there are any further problems (or the current one still remains), you can either post here or in ThiefGen. And whatever happens, voodoo47 will stop sulking.

Renault on 5/3/2018 at 21:28

@Luthien - I wasn't trying to be arrogant, but you're using very outdated software. I wasn't talking about your resolution, but ddfix. It's completely obsolete. Switch to New Dark, and you can probably get 0 switching time with any resolution you choose. Ddfix is just not used anymore, and no one is likely going to be able to help you configure it properly.

Luthien on 6/3/2018 at 00:10

Quote Posted by R Soul

Thanks for the suggestion, but if I wanted to play a different game, I'd play a different game: I'm not interested in game mechanics changing mods like NewDark; tdp, tg and tma have been working like a charm for the last nineteen yers, and I'm sure they'll still work twenty years in the future. The question was about the fan mission and not about the engine anyway.

@Brethren: Don't bother to communicate with me anymore - the junk you've thrown at me several times has earned you a place on my ignore list.

Please spare me further advice a la "the original games are crap, if you don't use xyz-mod you're an idiot". At what point in time did ttlg become such a hostile and un-helpful place? (Rethorical question, no nswer required.)

Renault on 6/3/2018 at 00:35

I know you have some history here Luthien, but really, you're just being a jerk now. I think it's pretty obvious (to most) that people here are trying to help you. You don't have to take anyone's advice, but you also don't have to treat people like shit who have good intentions.

New Dark doesn't change Thief that significantly that it could be construed as a "different game." Not even close. You sound like an old grandpa who refuses to accept that (insert technology here) is the way of the future when it's been a foregone conclusion for some time now.

And it's funny how you claim the original games work fine, yet you still posted this thread because you were having major issues. Issues that no one else is having.

R Soul on 6/3/2018 at 00:58

edit for context: made this post at the same time as Brethren...

Quote Posted by Luthien

Thanks for the suggestion, but if I wanted to play a different game, I'd play a different game: I'm not interested in game mechanics changing mods like NewDark;

That's not what NewDark is. NewDark is a patch makes it easier to run the game on newer computers, with support for fancy things, but on it's own it doesn't change game mechanics, nor the appearance. There is an option for improved mantling, but in the package I linked to, it's off by default. I provided that link precisely because it's the simplest option. And I'm sure you'll like being able to run at a higher resolution with no game-menu delay.

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tdp, tg and tma have been working like a charm for the last nineteen yers

But there's one mission in T2X which is behaving strangely. I have no idea if the NewDark patch will fix it, but it's worth a try.

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At what point in time did ttlg become such a hostile and un-helpful place? (Rethorical question, no nswer required.)

Answer provided anyway: It's mainly voodoo47 getting carried away, and I don't like it either.

ValmontPhl on 6/3/2018 at 03:26

Quote Posted by R Soul

It's mainly voodoo47 getting carried away, and I don't like it either.

My take on voodoo was not that he was being dramatic, but rather, prescient. With any tech topic, voodoo is one of the first on the thread and with the proper fix.

Someone who is still using 1.03 in 2018 has been resisting NewDark for what? 8 years?
Seems predictable, then, where the convo is going to go once NewDark is brought up and voodoo is likely tired and bored of having *that* convo over and over.
And over again.

IMO there is not much that can be done re: ddfix issues at this point; which is why NewDark was a god-send so long ago.

2¢ Keep the change

Renault on 6/3/2018 at 04:18

In the end, you can have 2 completely separate installations, one New Dark, one Old Dark, if you really want to. They can co-exist without affecting each other.

Unna Oertdottir on 6/3/2018 at 12:30

The screenshot is looking messed up. I wonder if hardware acceleration is enabled. Since you're using ddfix, you need a higher resolution than 640x480
ddfix readme

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open ddfix.ini and change the screen resolution there to match what you want to use in game. (Using your desktop resolution is recommended, but anything will do as long as it's 800x600 or above.) If required, you can also turn on the duel core and video fixes here.

That means, ddfix doesn't work at all in this case. There are some threads about T2x and ddfix.
I also recommed using NewDark, btw. It's easier for you.

ZylonBane on 6/3/2018 at 19:24

Luthien, remember when the Dark engine source was leaked a few years ago? Then a few years after that NewDark mysteriously appeared? Do try to put two and two together. It's not a new engine. It's even used by the GOG and Steam releases.