nickie on 25/8/2016 at 19:39
My patience is very thin these days. Give the aggro a rest and discuss the topic or . . . (I'll think of something appropriate!)
Mr Art Valnades on 26/8/2016 at 23:13
Quote Posted by R Soul
The guards on the streets in T1 weren't with the City Watch. That didn't exist in that game.
Really? I'm sure I remember references to the City Watch in the first game, albeit a lot more corrupt and ineffective...
Just glanced at the Dark Wiki and apparently they were "The Baron's Police" back then, still featuring a Sheriff and all that.
You do have a point though that there's nothing specifically to suggest they recognise him as Garrett. I just find it quite hard to swallow that the Watch doesn't have some sort of description of what he looks like. I mean Garrett's one of their most high priority targets in that game. They know where he lives, have sources quite close to him (Mosley was able to hire him...or was it Hagen? I always get those two mixed up). He was sold out by one of his contacts and was briefly caught with his trousers down at the local pub. Surely at least some of the Watch Officers must recognise him at least some of the time?
Mr Art Valnades on 26/8/2016 at 23:44
Quote Posted by nickie
My patience is very thin these days. Give the aggro a rest and discuss the topic or . . . (I'll think of something appropriate!)
Or get sent to Cragscleft?
nickie on 30/8/2016 at 05:35
I wish. :)
It seems to me that you and words get on just fine.
Unkillable Cat on 30/8/2016 at 08:02
I always thought the reason Garrett is recognizable to The Law in Thief 3 was due to infamy.
In Thief 1 he's just starting out on his career as a Master Thief, only the Downwinders seem to know who he is (because he's cramping their business). He's also either picking targets of opportunity, or out-of-the-way targets. If you think about it, the biggest "heist" Garrett pulls off in T1 that would help build his rep as a Master Thief is breaking in and out of Cragscleft. That alone should peg him as a Heretic of Interest to the Hammerites.
By Thief 2 I'm not 100% sure whether word has gotten out that Garrett stopped the Trickster, but it doesn't matter much because Sheriff Truart and his men are after everyone that even looks funny to them. There's even a scene at a pub where he pulls off a daring escape. Making The Man look silly always nets people a few points in the lower parts of society. Garrett then proceeds to target and rob a well-off religious sect, as well as breaking into a bank and pilfering a priceless collection of a respectable nobleman (and not some disrespectable nobleman like Lord Bafford).
And I'll be a Burrick in a shoebox if people wouldn't have known by the end of Thief 2 that Garrett has saved The City at least once...by being a thieving bastard.
So by the time Thief 3 rolls round, there's a good reason why The Law is taught to recognize (and arrest) Garrett on sight - he's infamous, armed and dangerous (to the rich). People know he's the Master Thief, to the point that lowlife scum are impersonating him to make a quick profit, and people are quick to recognize when their purses and jewelry has gone missing. And during Thief 3 he pulls off the heist of his career - the City Museum. Short of pickpocketing the Master Builder's favourite chisel from his waist during his next earthly visit, there's little more Garrett can do as a thief by this point.
(Except, of course, piss down his career by starring in a sequel so horrid that it all but destroys his reputation, but that's another story.)
So yeah, turns out that if you're good at what you do, people will start to recognize you.
(And if you bellow bolsterously about bygone byte-sized battles whilst belittling the believers that bother batting around their bias of a beloved burglar...well, don't be surprised that people just cup their ears and walk away.)
TannisRoot on 30/8/2016 at 10:59
I definitely saw it as Garrett the myth outgrowing Garrett the man. I doubt the guards recognize Garrett on sight, rather by that point they simply jump to the conclusion and by coincidence they're right. I'm sure any master heist gets credited to Garrett at that point. He's a legend like the grey fox. He'd definitely be wise to consider moving after T3 to a place where he isn't so infamous :p