Nameless Voice on 9/12/2015 at 02:03
Uhm, maybe I'm missing something there, but how do either of those options (open webmail, save to cloud storage) allow you to view the html file at any time without an internet connection?
Medlar on 9/12/2015 at 10:08
The file will open off line in the mail app, it will not render tho', comes up as html.
Muzman on 11/12/2015 at 06:14
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
I remember a couple of years ago (maybe 6-7), I had a friend with an iPhone, and I sent her an email with a .html document attached, with the idea that she would save the document onto her phone and be able to review it as needed.
I couldn't believe that there was no way to do something as simple as save a document onto the device.
Have they progressed since then?
Being that Apple originated the whole tablet interface thing they went hard for the black box computing style. They were going to tell you what functionality you needed to keep things simple for your grandma or whatever. Makes a certain amount of sense, in principle at least, given how limited and slow your interactions are with a touch screen on a small slow computer with limited capacities.
Mostly adding stuff that desktop users prefer has been the domain of app creators. These may or may not get microsofted into the main thing. They seem to be getting there though.
I don't know about Apple, but I went from a cheap HTC, which was alright, but still at the mercy of whatever apps you can find to perform fairly basic functions - to a couple of years on when I got a xiaomi a few months ago and it's got a file browser as standard.
So there's some progress.
Nameless Voice on 12/12/2015 at 02:17
On a vaguely similar topic to the original thread - why is there no "perfect" keyboard app on Android?
Swype (which was mentioned as not working on Kindle) is probably the best, but it still has a lot of annoying flaws; mostly that it will sometimes go back and "autocorrect" words you've already entered to force them into what it thinks is the sentence you wanted to type, but it just ends up garbling your sentences into unreadable nonsense - and this function cannot be turned off under any circumstances, even when autocorrect is otherwise turned off. It drives me mad, it's been reported on their forums, but they don't seem to care (they mostly seem to want to get the people who already paid for their app to give them more money by advertising themes at you.)
Google Keyboard has improved a lot, and actually seems to be slightly better at picking words than Swype, but it has even more flaws: the punctuation is really hard to access quickly, the dictionary is hard-coded (it keeps suggesting words I don't want it to suggest, such as US English spellings, but I can't tell it not to), and it's also harder to write word combinations (by typing a word, hitting backspace, and typing another word) because it loves to re-add deleted spaces.
SwiftKey has really bad suggestions, because it suggests words to put next instead of different options for the word you just entered. That alone basically makes it useless for me, since swiping in any keyboard rarely gives the correct word every time.
Other keyboards I've tried (Samsung Keyboard, Hacker's Keyboard) don't have swiping at all.
Yakoob on 12/12/2015 at 02:37
Personally I don't mind Swype, it's great on my phone since it only requires my thumb. The autocorrect is a bit annoying but I kind of accept it as an unavoidable side effect of the keys being small and many words having similar spelling (and me being drunk ;p). I mean, some words are literally swiping left/right on one line, so I don't blame it for getting confused once in a while.
Nameless Voice on 12/12/2015 at 03:37
I don't think I've properly explained what I mean by "autocorrect" here.
Sometimes, I will write some words which are correct, then write another word which causes Swype to change previous words that I've already written, after I've already stooped looking at them because they were correct when I entered them.
As a made-up example, suppose I wanted to write "today, in fine spirits, I left the house" (I have no idea why I'd want to write that), and I started by swiping "today, in" - which I can see a written in the text box - and then I swipe "fine", which discreetly changes the "in" to "I'm" because it thinks I'm trying to write "I'm fine". Because it's a small change to a word I already finished with, I don't notice until after pressing send.
Yakoob on 12/12/2015 at 04:12
huh it doesn't do that to me? Once I put a space or a period it wont change anything before. Are you sure it's not some other feature that's doing it?
Im on TMoblies Samsung S4 fyi
Muzman on 12/12/2015 at 18:18
Yeah, Swype and Swiftkey are getting too clever for their own good these days like that. I've been caught many times thinking I've been saying one thing right, one word at a time, only to post a msg and see it changed a few things at once to some phrase it thinks I favor. Especially if you try and be a bit clever and colorful with the English like that. It's sometimes as though it's trying to help non english speakers write and thinks because I listened to too much Spike Milligan as a kid that I'm such a person. An easy enough mistake I suppose.
Swiftkey also throws up really bizarre and obscure terms a lot of the time and will suspiciously jump to words or phrases that are in the popular consciousness, like the names of movies. Makes me think there's some combo of google autocomplete and some ad placement going on there (this might be well known, I don't know)
I had a good time with Go Keyboard, even though I think that's gone ad supported, not sure. It took a while to get the hang of me but it eventually seemed to get what I was trying to say even when making swiping 'typos', where you forget momentarily where the letters are and scribble all over the place. Other systems so far insist on trying to make some obscure term or name out of that or give up entirely.
Nameless Voice on 12/12/2015 at 20:30
Well, the reviews are certainly complaining about ads.
I also find it a little suspicious that it's also called " + Emoji" - as if anyone actually wants those things...?
That's actually something that vaguely annoys me about Android in general. An insane number of apps have in-app advertisements or useless microtransactions or other things that no one actually wants - which wouldn't be so bad, except that it's almost impossible to find the good apps which don't have that rubbish in the Google Play Store, because you can't filter apps or do any particularly good searches. As a result, I rarely install anything on my phone because it's too hard to find the good apps in between all the bloated adware.
Yakoob on 12/12/2015 at 21:19
In their defense, app devs need to make money somehow, and with so much free stuff and blatant app flips, it doesn't surprise me people don't want to pay even a tiny 99c for one. Heck, even I have never set up my google play account and cant actually pay for stuff because why? There's always like 10 clones of whatever app I need that are free. The only exception I have been considering is games, particularly old classics (like Square's SNES jrpgs etc.)