TDS mini-campaign "THE CABAL": part 4 "Knife to the Heart" by Nomad

hammadnadeemx on 23/2/2011 at 17:38

Quote Posted by nomad of the pacific

The Incriminating Evidence looks like sheets of paper and needs to be delivered to the Over-Warden by dropping it in a drop box for the courier to deliver.

The Journal looks like a book and needs to be delivered to Councilor Gravius by dropping it on the desk.

OH thanks i got them mixed up ! lol

elkston on 23/2/2011 at 19:07

Quick question:

Can the key to the safe in the Administrator's bedroom be found on the "Castle Grounds" portion of the map of do I need to proceed to the next part?

gnartsch on 23/2/2011 at 19:48

Quote Posted by nomad of the pacific

Those are the three special loot items, so there must be a bug. Which one of the three didn't trigger a special loot message? Do you have a save from before taking that loot so you can test it again for me?

Ok, I started again from an earlier savegame and found the following:
I had retrieved only the skull and none of the other two.
The Goals said :

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0 items found

I said :

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What ???

I double checked my inventory and the 'Skull of St. Brecket' was there !
"Ok, cool down ..." I thought and loaded a savegame where I had just picked up the skull ~5sec. earlier.
Checked my stats: 1 item found.
Then I made my way back to the 'Barons Estate' via the cellar route.
Right after transition from the 'Castle Grounds' to the 'Barons Estate' I checked my stats again : 0 items found !!!

I retried a couple of times. Seems like it is pure luck if the counter is reset or not.
But about every 2nd time I cross the map (from CG to BE), it gets reset !
I am not sure about it, but this does NOT seem to happen if I make the transition via the main entrance to the 'Barons Estate'.
Does that make any sense ?

@elkstone
The key is not far away. Check the bedroom

nomad of the pacific on 23/2/2011 at 23:02

Thanks for checking out this bug so thoroughly, gnartsch! :thumb: There is a problem with inventory when crossing from one map to another, but I thought I had fixed it with a script. Apparently, you found a loophole when you saved just before crossing into the Estate. I'll have to look into that.

I recall that when I wrote my script to fix this problem, I frequently had to steal something (anything) to get my inventory to update. Could you please once more load your saved game, cross into the Estate, verify that your inventory is wrong, steal something and check again to see if your inventory is right or wrong? That should give me enough information to identify what part of my scripts are failing.

gnartsch on 23/2/2011 at 23:37

Quote Posted by nomad of the pacific

I recall that when I wrote my script to fix this problem, I frequently had to steal something (anything) to get my inventory to update. Could you please once more load your saved game, cross into the Estate, verify that your inventory is wrong, steal something and check again to see if your inventory is right or wrong? That should give me enough information to identify what part of my scripts are failing.

I tried the following:
- get the skull (1 item)
- steal something in CG (1 item)
- goto BE (0 items)
- steal something in BE (0 items)
So, it did not work for me.
Just to be precise: the problem is not the loot-inventory (which seemed always correct),
but the count of Special Items in the Goals.

nomad of the pacific on 24/2/2011 at 01:39

Thanks. Good to know the Loot part is working. I'll check to see if I need to handle Special Loot in the same way.

gnartsch on 24/2/2011 at 17:45

Quote Posted by nomad of the pacific

Thanks. Good to know the Loot part is working. I'll check to see if I need to handle Special Loot in the same way.

This would be good, since all 3 Items are required in order to finish the mission on Expert ;)

EDIT:

There is another bug that is likely to prevent completing the mission:
in case Mercier survives the attack, then YOU would have to kill him yourself.
However, doing so will fail the mission with the following reason: "Do not kill any non combatants"
On the other hand your goals say : "Mercier must DIE"
(recreated on Expert mode - in case this matters)

OK, I am done now with this mission - and I had a lot of fun with it !

Would be nice to hear from all you 'Flesheaters' soon again ! :thumb:

nomad of the pacific on 25/2/2011 at 02:52

Councilor Mercier and the Over-Warden don't count as noncombatants. You should be able to kill them, if necessary, but I much prefer when they kill each other. I like watching other people do my dirty work for me. :cheeky:

gnartsch on 25/2/2011 at 07:45

Quote Posted by nomad of the pacific

Yes, I like it too. And I watched it a couple of times
Problem is : quite often Mercier (the guy in red) survived
and the Goals said, that he is still on my todo list.
So I took an arrow and took him down myself and got the following:
"Objective complete"
"Mercier is no longer a problem"
"Mission FAILED !"
and the Goals said that I had killed a 'non combatant'

I retried a couple of times and it always fails the mission if I do so. :confused:
Killing the Over-Warden does not fail this objective, though.

nomad of the pacific on 25/2/2011 at 09:25

That's very strange! I must have killed him hundreds of times while testing and never had a problem. It almost seems that these fan missions work differently on every computer, just like the problem with the special loot. What's really strange is that you see it going through one portal but not the other. Both portals work using the same script! :confused: I converted Mercier and the Over-Warden into combatants using the same script, too, so why does it work with one and not the other? :nono: There has got to be a reason for the different behaviors, but I have no idea how to pinpoint it. :p