fortuni on 1/6/2024 at 21:01

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That shouldn't happen but guess leaving them alone will be ok. Your previous load was how things should have happened.

Spoiler: When you leave the station lobby, if you were quick enough you would have seen the 2 Keeper murders run to the right towards Wolfenstein village, being chased by a guard. The Guard in the guard post also joins the chase but both guards are killed by the Keepers along the pathway to the village, where you find their bodies once you have found the key for Wolfenstein gate.

So the 2 guards are not important and the 2 Keepers probably teleport out of the map a long time before you get to Wolfenstein village, so yes all should be ok to proceed, but it doesn't take too much time to restart might be best to do that.

<Username> on 2/6/2024 at 11:47

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This is a good mission, on par with the quality of the two Thief's Rising campaigns. :thumb:

Stats:
* Expert difficulty
* 499 minutes
* 9550 out of 10500 loot (90%)
* 20 out of 20 Europa coins
* 17 out of 15 secrets
* 16 out of 15 graves
* 0 hints needed
For the first time in T3 fan missions:
* Holy water and water arrows work similarly to T1 and T2.
Elements I liked:
* Getting to play a T3 fan mission of this quality for the game's 20th anniversary is a treat.
* I was able to complete the mission without hints on Expert difficulty. The mandatory secrets all felt fair. The loot goal was tough, but doable.
* The mission structure is keyhunt, and it is a good one. After I picked up the trail, I never had any issues figuring out where I needed to go next.
* The mission is generally well built and detailed.
* The journals' length was adequate. Every single one was written well.
* There are plenty of secret areas to discover. Journals contain suitable clues for them. Therefore, in contrast to many other missions, I was able to find the something hard to spot buttons that open hidden doors.
* There is an unobtrusive callback to T2: You can find a shipment of masks intended for Lord Gervasius inside a train compartment.
* I like that Reuben occasionally comments on events and points out important objects that can be interacted with. Too few fan missions use voice clips in this way.
* The enemy density on Expert is high, but it made for a fun challenge. The tavern was especially challenging.
* You can find a map of the village s streets, which is helpful.
* NPCs at the train station sit down again after being alerted.
* The toilet humor at the train station was surprisingly funny. I clicked on that stall door more often than I want to admit.
* I appreciate soap bars in this mission don't have that unnatural glow of the standard T3 asset.
Could be improved:
* A Wolfenstein/Thief crossover was not what I expected from a mission in the 20th Anniversary Contest. Reuben travels to the village of Wolfenstein in Germania? That didn't work for me, as did the cheesy voice acting of Heinrich or the extro with World War II soldiers and an image of B.J. Blazkowicz. On the other hand, what did work for me was the mission's plot line with a rogue Keeper faction plotting to resurrect Heinrich. The person in the cutscene lifted from Return to Castle Wolfenstein actually does look like a Keeper. Overall, I fell conflicted about the mission s setting and plot.
* Lifting the Wolfenstein logo as well as a whole cutscene and voice clips from Return to Castle Wolfenstein is copyright infringement. I hope this won't result in the fan mission getting pulled from the web.
* The mission would have been better without a janky arena battle at the end. I was running away from Heinrich and his minions for the duration of the fight. He was still able to hit me with his unavoidable wave attack.
* It is nice that you can search drawers, but doing this over and over and over again in every house became tiresome. The majority of my playthrough was spent rifling through drawers and moving objects to check if there was hidden something beneath them.
* If you open a drawer with a flashbomb inside and then close the drawer again, the flashbomb will float in the air outside the drawer.
* I found a total of 78% loot at the train station and in the village. When I first reached the crypt, Reuben told me to go back to finish my other objectives first. I mistakenly assumed this includes the loot objective. I tried for a long time to get to 90% loot in the village. Luckily, I tried the crypt again when only the loot objective remained. This might trip up other players as well.
* At first, the civilians at the train station would not react to me. But when I returned later on to find some more loot, most ran away screaming when they saw me. Their behavior seems inconsistent.
* The first time I got the objective "Search Aramis...", the previously neutral guard next to his corpse turned hostile. This did not happen when I reloaded and approached the corpse from a different angle. The guard then merely acknowledged my presence when he saw me. But when he saw me a second time a bit later, he did turn hostile. His behavior seems inconsistent.
* I noticed several areas with sound propagation issues: No sound could be heard when enemies were searching for me in the staff room or in the bathroom near it at the train station while I was in the hallway. When I entered a secret passage via a secret elevator in a storage cupboard, ambient sounds cut off until I reached the next area. Sound from inside Harrach Flat no. 2 does not propagate to the hallway in front of it.
* The fireplace in the kitchen where things mysteriously go missing and one at Ascania's are missing an exhaust. The people living at these places would die from smoke inhalation.
* After I knocked everyone out in the bar, the crowd sounds did not stop. This is a common issue with ambient sounds like this one in Thief fan missions.
* If you crawl out from the tavern cellar and walk towards the west, you can see the map backdrop pop in and out of existence as you move forwards or backwards.
* Two characters sending letters to each other are named Hansel and Gretel. That was a bit too on the nose.
Bugs:
* Even with Run Speed Factor in SneakyTweaker at 1,00, it was easily possible to outrun the murderer in front of the train station and clear the gate to the village while it was still open. I got the message "No cheating! Set your movement speed to default." and was teleported back.
* The two Keepers who killed the guard in front of the village did not react to my presence. For the duration of my playthrough, they remained frozen in place. I think something went wrong with the scripting there.
* It is possible to break the mission if you read Aramis' note before the objective to meet up with him is canceled. In that case, "Objective Incomplete" is displayed on the screen. The objective will remain incomplete.
* You can make as much noise as you want, the man on the sofa at Wittgenstein's will never start to investigate. He will comment on the noise though. Only when he sees you will he get up.
* The woman sleeping in the bed in the upper floor bedroom at Wittgenstein's cannot be woken up by noise. She will comment on any noise you are making, but always will keep on sleeping. She will only get up when you touch her.
Question:
* At Ascania's, I found a kitchen drawer key in one of the two north east dining room shelves. Can this key be used anywhere in the mission?

<Username> on 2/6/2024 at 14:56

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I like the standalone release because Thief's Rising: Wolfenstein is a complete and enjoyable mission in its own right. It can reach a wider audience this way.



That is 300 loot I missed. Thank you!

frobbin hood on 4/6/2024 at 15:12

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An Ok mission, until the end.
Although I had some idea of what to do, I ran around for what seemed like hours and kept finding my progress reset randomly.
This became tedious and I gave up.
Oh well, I'm sure others had fun.

<Username> on 5/6/2024 at 06:06

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The arena battle at the end is not that hard: Shoot one elemental arrow of each kind into the flames emanating from the four braziers. Make sure to hit each flame right when it matches that element's color, otherwise the sequence will reset. (Telling the green hues of moss and gas apart can be a little difficult.) Do it four times correctly to light up all four braziers. Then Heinrich will be struck by lightning. Now run up to him and use the Glyph Writer on the ground below him.