SubJeff on 15/4/2008 at 21:39
I said it's an insincere sentiment, not that they aren't doing anything. Do these people really care about TP? Or would they do the same for just about any vaguely person that has been involved in some form of entertainment they like? Will they really care if and when he goes?
If you're going to ask me a question then please read my answer. No conclusion jumping and no strawman please.
Thirith on 15/4/2008 at 21:56
What reason do you have to believe that they don't care about Terry Pratchett? I doubt that many people who don't really enjoy his books would join this cause.
And I do think you're being somewhat insincere here, since you're jumping to conclusions about these people - on the basis of what?
The Phenomenon on 15/4/2008 at 22:32
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
I don't think it's wrong or reprehensible. I think the sentiment is a little insincere if you really boil it down but if it gets money to a good cause I don't see the harm.
Its only insincere if people who donate because of Terry Pratchett do so while claiming that they have cared all along, and want to grab credit for it as if they are the next Mother Theresa.
Then its insincere, for sure, but that's not what this has been about.
Aranamarunda on 17/4/2008 at 14:05
Well, since this is my first post ever on this forum, let me just say that I am a HUGE Pratchett fan and can call his books art under any destinction between art and non-art that is made. If we define art as shit, then his books are among the best shit ever produced.
That said, the news of his Alzheimer took me by surprise and had me feeling quite shaken afterwards. I can't come up with another writer who's books write so accurately about human behaviour. To think that sich a mind could wither into nothingness, greatly disturbs me. So, please give if you want to give. No real reason is needed but the reason of the heart. No real argument for either altruism or egoism can be given anyway.
I, myself, am not giving, but I certainly hope that he'll get miracalously cured.
And WaeseL, I thought you had died. Can you please post? You know what I mean ;D
Stitch on 17/4/2008 at 14:16
Welcome to the forums, dude.
Post more :cool:
Queue on 17/4/2008 at 14:57
*waving to Aranamarunda*
...that's a mouthful.
Hope you post more, this can be complete hell here. :thumb:
And I couldn't agree with you more in your feeling of shock, and this sickening sense of impending loss.
AxTng1 on 17/4/2008 at 16:28
I occasionally wondered why there was not more appreciation of pterry on this forum - he writes novels with many "nerd" culture references and likes Thief FMs, as has been pointed out. Are you so elitist that you assume 30-odd books are all going to be the same? While the Colour of Magic may have been a pulp fantasy satire, the recent novels are very difficult to classify and should not be written off for some stupid poseur reason. I know someone who refuses to read any Terry Pratchett books because he heard that pterry once made fun of D&D. He makes fun of everything. Someone should.
I admit that I feel a bit uneasy when celebrities pump a lot of money into "worthy causes" when they are affected, but what else is there to do? Many also contribute anyway, but we don't hear about it as much (except for Bill & Melinda Gates)
SubJeff on 17/4/2008 at 16:44
Quote Posted by Aranamarunda
I can't come up with another writer who's books write so accurately about human behaviour.
I like most of what you said, but this statement... ... You can't have read very much if you really think that.
Thirith on 17/4/2008 at 16:47
I think that Pratchett might be one of the most over- and underrated contemporary writers. His fans tend to venerate him like a god, although there's a lot about his books that is repetitive and samey; yet his detractors ignore that he is consistently enjoyable and in some of his books remarkably witty and perceptive, and even moving.
nickie on 17/4/2008 at 19:02
Quote Posted by Queue
*waving to Aranamarunda*
...that's a mouthful.
Well I know you have trouble with long words Queue. Best thing to do is break it down into syllables. ;)
As Jenesis pointed out on the first page, there does seem to be some success with an arthritis drug. Did you see that Subjective Effect? Wonder what you think.
You can't help everyone. The only way I've found to deal with all the tugs on my conscience is to have just a few 'causes' that mean something personally and give regularly to those. I've tried in the past to give something that has had an emotional effect on me but it hasn't worked well, particularly where card payments are involved, and failure just makes me feel guilty.
