heywood on 17/5/2011 at 04:44
Quote Posted by Bluegrime
Same thing that would happen if someone who was 30 passes out drunk with a firearm, I would assume. The kind of person who drinks to that point while in possession of a handgun is going to be inherently stupid, regardless of age. But realistically what do you picture happening? Someone going "oh this guy is passed out, lets fuck with his gun"?
In that particular situation, I would mainly worry about it being stolen.
I would also be a little concerned about safe storage of students' guns when they're not carrying.
And maybe drunken bar fights turning into shootings, i.e. the kind of shit that seems to happen to NFL players and hip-hop artists starting to happen to university students.
Sg3 on 17/5/2011 at 13:33
Quote Posted by heywood
And maybe drunken bar fights turning into shootings, i.e. the kind of shit that seems to happen to NFL players and hip-hop artists starting to happen to university students.
Professional football players and hip-hop singers get concealed-carry permits?
Bluegrime on 17/5/2011 at 17:53
Quote Posted by heywood
In that particular situation, I would mainly worry about it being stolen.
I would also be a little concerned about safe storage of students' guns when they're not carrying.
And maybe drunken bar fights turning into shootings, i.e. the kind of shit that seems to happen to NFL players and hip-hop artists starting to happen to university students.
I think the kind of person who would get into a bar fight then shoot the other person probably wouldn't even bother with the permit. But I think that really its no more dangerous then someone who has a knife or a padlock on the end of a bandanna.. If someone is really looking for trouble their going to find something to use.
Same goes for the possibility of a gun being stolen, really. Someone who leaves a firearm in the position to be stolen isn't bright in the first place and anyone who would steal a firearm for criminal use is a criminal to begin with. I very much doubt an upstanding person, drunk or otherwise, would see someone passed out and rummage through their things.
I'm sure it does happen but I don't think it would be something thats all that affected by the ebb and flow of concealed carry laws.
heywood on 18/5/2011 at 04:19
When Plaxico Burress shot himself in the leg, a number of current and former NFL players commented on TV saying that most NFL players carry (for the most part, legally). Burress had a concealed carry permit in Florida. I've heard the same said about rap/hip-hop artists & producers.
Vasquez on 18/5/2011 at 07:55
Quote Posted by Bluegrime
But I think that really its no more dangerous then someone who has a knife or a padlock on the end of a bandanna.. If someone is really looking for trouble their going to find something to use.
Firearm is much more effective and long-range than a knife. A stray bullet flying through a window can kill a completely random person walking by, but with a knife you usually hit what you're aiming to, because it's only at your arm's length or so.
(Hmm, unless you throw the knife, of course...)
ercles on 18/5/2011 at 11:55
Quote Posted by heywood
When Plaxico Burress shot himself in the leg, a number of current and former NFL players commented on TV saying that most NFL players carry (for the most part, legally). Burress had a concealed carry permit in Florida. I've heard the same said about rap/hip-hop artists & producers.
Don't suppose you have the article(s) regarding most players carrying weapons? Seems a stretch to me.
EDIT: A bit of digging around on ESPN I have found a few quotes to that end. I really do like the US of A, but it's pretty fucked up when your sportspeople feel the need to carry weapons to protect themselves from the public.
Sg3 on 18/5/2011 at 19:34
Quote Posted by ercles
it's pretty fucked up when your sportspeople feel the need to carry weapons to protect themselves from the public.
Maybe if they didn't generally act like tools, they wouldn't need to.
Tocky on 19/5/2011 at 04:27
That's funny. They acknowledge they need to be shot.
I got the MK IV the first year it came out. It really does level out nice when you extend your arm, and not a lot of difference from the 1911 except for the safety features. The balance is excellent unlike those ungainly 357s and really any other gun. Too 50s detective sexy. Not that I use it for anything other than a snake gun but I can't help but feel the devil designed it to make evil more natural.
But gunny, this is the one to have with a kid in the house. It's too hard for a kid to pull the slide back, you can't pull the trigger without a hand around the handle, you can't drop it and make it go off even fully cocked. Once placed unchambered in an accessable personal place like the locked headboard of your bed (though easily broken in emergency) then you have done about all you can safety wise other than stern lectures.
As for the topic, I would hate to be a teacher in Texas handing out an F to Bubba quickdraw. Mygod the number of people I've known who shouldn't own a gun but do. My cousin Rodney (the same one who shot the moccasin between Jeffs legs) once tried to order some food at a Wendys but the teens hanging out back blasting hiphop had it so loud he couldn't make himself understood so he pulled his 357 Taurus and reached across my face firing it out the window shouting "shut the fuck up". They went over stuff I couldn't jump on my best day and under stuff you couldn't roll a coke can under and everything got real quiet except for the ringing in my ears. It might have been funny if it wasn't horrific. He placed his order and was going to drive to the window. I talked him into leaving right then among other things. Have I told that one?
CCCToad on 19/5/2011 at 04:38
Quote Posted by Tocky
As for the topic, I would hate to be a teacher in Texas handing out an F to Bubba quickdraw. Mygod the number of people I've known who shouldn't own a gun but do. My cousin Rodney (the same one who shot the moccasin between Jeffs legs) once tried to order some food at a Wendys but the teens hanging out back blasting hiphop had it so loud he couldn't make himself understood so he pulled his 357 Taurus and reached across my face firing it out the window shouting "shut the fuck up". They went over stuff I couldn't jump on my best day and under stuff you couldn't roll a coke can under and everything got real quiet except for the ringing in my ears. It might have been funny if it wasn't horrific. He placed his order and was going to drive to the window. I talked him into leaving right then among other things. Have I told that one?
I um..."don't condone" his actions, but thats still pretty funny. Seeing a bunch suburban wannabe gangbangers piss themselves must have been hilarious.
