Thank You, America. - by Nicker
blaydes99 on 7/11/2012 at 22:05
Quote Posted by dethtoll
... white boy...
What a faggot hypocrite.
DDL on 7/11/2012 at 22:05
Quote Posted by Brethren
Isn't this how the system should work? You start low on the totem pole and work your way up. Don't tell me there aren't opportunities to do this out there, because I see them every day. You're not going to hand some unskilled person a super high-paying job, or what motivation do they have to move up and improve themselves? The low pay should be a motivator, not a deterrent.
The problem with this viewpoint is it assumes that "working your way up" follows a wholly linear path rather than an asymptotic one with arbitrary ceilings: you don't have ten dudes working the burgerflipping who then migrate up to be ten floor managers who manage the next generation's ten burgerflippers, then migrate up to be ten region managers who manage the next generation's ten burgerflippers who are now ten floor managers.
You have a hundred burgerflippers managed by ten floor managers managed by a single region manager. No matter
how hard those hundred burgerflippers work, 99 of them are shit outta luck when it comes to a regional manager position. And really,
all of them are outta luck when it comes to that position, because it'll go to someone with a good management education who never had to flip burgers.
There will always be more people in shitty baseline jobs than there will be people managing, and those shitty baseline jobs are fucking
vital to keeping the world running, so anything we can do to reduce the inequality between the tiers, or hell, just make the bottom tiers less fucking awful, will help vastly more people than tax cuts for the rich or encouraging free enterprise or whatever.
EDIT: also, I am loving the "don't you dare call me racist, I'll have you know I'm a HOMOPHOBE, thankyouverymuch" from blaydes, here. Classy! :D
june gloom on 7/11/2012 at 22:11
Quote Posted by blaydes99
That's my point fucktard. What the hell do you know, I didn't live in government housing, we paid our own rent. Plus, I lived there when I was 12 years old. So now minor children need to provide for themselves? Once I was on my own I put myself to work. I don't rely on the government that anymore like some of these 30-40 year olds that still can't figure things out.
You have no idea how low-income housing works, do you? And anyway, yeah, if we're going by your own standards, yeah you should've been able to provide for yourself at 12, you lazy fuck.
Quote Posted by blaydes99
What a faggot hypocrite.
hahahahaha i love it
If I were any whiter I'd be kissing my sister at a Skynard concert. Calling you out on your racism, then laughing at you for calling me racist, isn't hypocrisy. Try again, shithead.
(can't argue the faggot thing though, simon baker mmm)
heywood on 7/11/2012 at 22:48
Quote Posted by Muzman
Ultimately probably not. But Romney makes more sabre rattling noises to please his base. Obama makes more diplomatic ones to please his. This difference represents a chasm in international relations, even if the policies are effectively the same. Obama is actually (relatively) popular with Muslim youth in the middle east and africa.
I have a hard time believing that. There may have been some good will toward Obama early on, but with no significant change in US policy toward the region his speeches are probably dismissed as empty words. And now he's getting burned in effigy by Muslim youth just like Bush did. Not just in the middle east, but here in Sydney and Scotland too (and probably other places).
Quote Posted by Nicker
To quote Canadian ex-Prime Minister Supreme, Pierre Trudeau, "Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."
Canada has a special interest because the economies are tightly coupled, and because of their proximity, large border, cultural similarities, and some common history. So I understand that.
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But mostly it was wondering if you'd really put a Mormon in charge of the big red button.
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Quote Posted by DDL
healthcare is not, at its root, something that works with an insurance-based model
Health care is
exactly the kind of thing that works with an insurance-based model. I suppose you could take routine care out of it, but everything else fits the insurance model perfectly. Even fully nationalized systems like the British NHS operate under the principles of insurance.
blaydes99 on 7/11/2012 at 22:54
Quote Posted by dethtoll
You have no idea how low-income housing works, do you?
Not sure what you're talking about, but I know where I lived back then and you don't.
Let me clarify for you, and I'll make sure sure to use small words so that you can understand.
I didn't live in any residence wherein the government paid for any part of our rent. Our apartment was not built by the government or had anything to do with the government. I call it low-income because it was small and inexpensive and the only thing we could afford at the time.
june gloom on 7/11/2012 at 23:01
Gee, sounds like your parents or whoever it was took care of you was too lazy to raise you in a better neighborhood.
blaydes99 on 7/11/2012 at 23:09
Koyla, I should've listened to you about the troll thing... but at least I was able to vent some of my rage. :D
CCCToad on 7/11/2012 at 23:11
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CCCToad on 7/11/2012 at 23:16
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I have a hard time believing that. There may have been some good will toward Obama early on, but with no significant change in US policy toward the region his speeches are probably dismissed as empty words. And now he's getting burned in effigy by Muslim youth just like Bush did. Not just in the middle east, but here in Sydney and Scotland too (and probably other places).
Well, there's SOME exceptions. Saudi Arabia is pretty fond of him.
blaydes99 on 7/11/2012 at 23:20
I'm still trying to figure out why Hugo Chavez wanted Obama to be re-elected. Since Chavez hates the U.S. so much, I figure he at might like Obama because then he doesn't feel the typical U.S. pressure aimed at him as in the past.
