LarryG on 17/8/2015 at 17:59
Quote Posted by Yandros
Brethren was thinking of Gaylesaver, and fib's link is the so-called confession. But I don't think it actually happened that way, I think Vadim was clever enough to reverse-engineer the headers just like Telliamed did.
I remember reading that now. I thought he was just off his meds at the time. That explains why he's not been around since. Personally, I'm willing to forgive the misrepresentation, just as I understand why the Raven does not go public. The Raven takes the approach to remain autonomous to avoid possible prosecution. Gaylesaver chose to misrepresent that he had reverse engineered the functionality for similar reasons. Unfortunately that choice was emotionally damaging to him. I still appreciate that it was done and made the subsequent script work possible.
Renault on 17/8/2015 at 21:50
I guess I'm not following here, but if the guy said he "stole" the scripts and falsely released them as his own material, how can that be a misrepresentation or it not be the way it actually happened? Who would claim such a thing if it weren't at least partially true? I'm not doubting what he's capable of, but it kind of seems obvious that he did something unethical that misled everyone in the community at that time.
The only reason I bring it up - this thread is supposed to give credit where it's due. Let's not thank and give credit to the wrong people.
Nameless Voice on 22/8/2015 at 03:44
IIRC, he never claimed to have stolen scripts themselves. He claimed to have stolen some header files containing the interface specification for the features that the Dark Engine exposes to its scripts. Basically, a list of what a script can tell the game to do, and how.
The scripts all use such interfaces to talk to the game engine and tell it what to do - e.g. read this property, teleport this object, create this link - but the actual effect of turning those small actions into something useful is entirely dependent on the script-writer.
So even if he had stolen them (which he didn't, as far as I can recall), that still wouldn't mean that writing the scripts themselves wasn't an achievement in its own right.
Yandros on 22/8/2015 at 04:57
That is precisely my recollection as well.
