New Horizon on 29/12/2009 at 15:05
I tried to post a comment, but it wouldn't work. Have to be logged into word press. I suppose I'll sign up for an account so I can ask for them to correct their article. It's nice to have a write up, but I just don't understand how they got the information so wrong...especially when the description at the top of our website clearly describes what the mod is.
d'Spair on 29/12/2009 at 20:44
Ah, these are idiots. They surround us.
Yandros on 30/12/2009 at 02:38
Thanks for making me think of this song, hadn't heard it in years.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWoYzB7-308) Wrathchild America - Surrounded By Idiots
They were ahead of their time...
Chade on 30/12/2009 at 04:55
Quote Posted by New Horizon
I just don't understand how they got the information so wrong...especially when the description at the top of our website clearly describes what the mod is.
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THE DARK MOD is a total conversion for Doom 3, turning it into a dark and moody stealth game inspired by the Thief series by Looking Glass Studios.
It's not at all clear unless you know the developers behind each game. The man's obviously only played Thief 3. Also, he was probably linked straight to the download page.
Anyway, he might have done a bit more homework, and maybe if he was a journalist I would get more upset about it ... but it's just some random guy's personal blog. He's obviously only played Thief 3, then played your mod, observed that you mimic Thief, and leapt to the obvious conclusion that it's "Thief 3.5".
Leaving a comment correcting him is a good idea, but the whole "idiot" discussion going on here is pretty sad ... LGS closed almost a decade ago, guys ... people aren't idiots just because they don't know Thief's history.
EDIT: Hrmph, should have checked the article again before posting. It's good that you commented. I see he deleted some comments too. If that came from posters here ... I can only imagine ... :rolleyes:
mazzortock on 30/12/2009 at 15:09
I agree it's not good to say "idiot" to anyone, but the guy on this blog said some things simply not true. A "port" it's a "port", in software language, and TDM it's not a all a "port" or anything, pity a Thief3 port.
It's better to admit it, that's all, and the case has been closed same day, friendly and happy for all.
But the guy closed and erased (this is really bad) comments, saying " I’m not someone’s press agency".
IMHO it's not a good reply too.
New Horizon on 30/12/2009 at 15:37
The posts he erased really weren't rude at all, they were just two posts stating that tdm was not at all a port. Anyway, I gave him the correct information and he took the stand point that it was his personal tastes were being scrutinized by asking him not to call it a port. Which makes absolutely no sense. He has since removed that comment.
mazzortock on 30/12/2009 at 16:18
Quote Posted by New Horizon
The posts he erased really weren't rude at all, they were just two posts stating that tdm was not at all a port.
These posts, by the way, was by me :cool:
The Sleeper on 30/12/2009 at 19:27
It has been some time since I last wandered through this forum and I stop in and see my prayers have been answered the Dark Mod was released.:thumb:
Chade on 30/12/2009 at 20:57
Quote Posted by mazzortock
A "port" it's a "port", in software language, and TDM it's not a all a "port" or anything, pity a Thief3 port.
Quote Posted by New Horizon
Anyway, I gave him the correct information and he took the stand point that it was his personal tastes were being scrutinized by asking him not to call it a port. Which makes absolutely no sense.
I can sympathise with him there. People often play fast and loose with definitions in casual conversation. Sure, TDM is not a port ... but it has the heart and soul of one.
By asking him to be super accurate in describing the game (
how dare you call TDM a port! It may look like a port in many ways, but technically it's not a port at all!), you are asking him to take
your hobby as seriously as you do. So in a sense, he's correct to say that you are scrutinising his personal tastes.
And geez, all he wanted to do was give your mod a compliment! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you ...
EDIT: yeah i'm feelin grumpy ...
New Horizon on 30/12/2009 at 23:37
Quote Posted by Chade
And geez, all he wanted to do was give your mod a compliment! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you ...
Yes, which I thanked him for most deservedly. I also thanked him for making the changes.
I still have to disagree on the topic of what a port is. Porting, in modding terms, is to 'port' an existing game...levels, sounds, characters, story, and all the gameplay...essentially stripping the insides of an old house and transferring it to a similar but newer house. The Open Dark Engine Project could be rather more accurately described as a port.
So we created a toolset, with sounds...textures...and characters that were inspired by Thief 1 and 2. Nothing is ported.
Anyway, I can see how someone outside of modding circles would be confused.
