Springheel on 17/10/2009 at 21:32

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Crash or just freeze? If the latter, the only way to be sure is to let it run for a good five minutes or so. The Training Map is fairly large and can take a good chunk of time to load if you don't have much RAM.

Malleus on 17/10/2009 at 21:41

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Yeah, it just stops responding. I'll try again and wait for some more - I gave up after about five minutes before I posted that. Anyway I have 2 GB RAM, and 512MB video card memory.

Briareos H on 17/10/2009 at 21:46

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I have one little other bug (seems Doom 3 doesn't like the Radeon 48XX series), which makes the skybox pan and rotate much faster than the rest of the world.

If I turn the mouselook 180 degrees in any direction, the skybox will turn at least 360 degrees, even sometimes to the point of being inverted. As a consequence, all the exteriors look weird.

1680x1050 16:10 with no AA and no bloom.

Apart from that, I'm having a blast. Warm congratulations to the whole team.

Tels on 17/10/2009 at 21:57

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Glad to hear! Did you by chance have anti-virus or other things running in the background? They might slow it down a lot.

Melan on 17/10/2009 at 22:28

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My initial impression after playing through the tremendous training mission and before heading off to sleep:

1) To get things out of the way first, this is absolutely breathtakingly super-awesome. Yes it is. Saint Lucia was already impressive, but the work since then has had to be phenomenal: most of the rough edges disappeared, the mod seems to run better han ever (see below), and the atmosphere is tremendous - great textures (really liked the windows!), subtle and ominous sounds (a major coup for the team, since good sound is really hard to do), seamless and so-far bug-free gameplay. Visually, the mod looks younger than its engine, and if it sees upgrades after Doom is open-sourced, it may become more beautiful still.

2) My performance was pretty poor for Saint Lucia on my laptop, so much so that I had to resort to running it at a low resolution and switch off a lot of features - and it still lagged around large open areas and dynamic lights (torches). However, the test mission here was almost problem-less in 1024x768 and only a few minor compromises had to be made to make it work. I noticed a slowdown at the canal when looking across to a faraway torch... although it might have been a long view. Otherwise, no problems at all.

3) I strongly disagree that this mod is some "estranged cousin" or whatever. It is, in fact, a fantastic spiritual sequel to a fantastic game, and deserves to be treated like a member of the family. It is certainly thiefier than Thief 3 ever was, or tried to be. The movement alone demonstrates that. Nor will it replace Dromed as an editing platform - people should rest assured about that. That old beast never dies. Now, yes, there are going to be a lot of opportunities in TDM missions. Also a good thing.

4) Lots of small details - I got a kick out of the fact that there is both a regular gargoyle and a chickeny-looking one - cool lockpicking - never got past the second round of melee combat; it is frightening again - object physics a major feature and crating will make a triumphant return (although probably in a different form from TDP/TMA).

5) Tapdancing is as cool as ever!

6) Okay, taffers, someone must climb up to the balcony of the huge grey tower looming over the archery range. There is bound to be a way there! :cheeky:

Well, so much for this time, and thanks again! This is beautiful.