mazzortock on 18/10/2009 at 01:57
OH MY GOD!
:eek::eek::eek:
I'm crying for the emotion!
THANKS GUYS!
Malleus on 18/10/2009 at 02:03
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I have one little other bug (seems Doom 3 doesn't like the Radeon 48XX series), which makes the skybox pan and rotate much faster than the rest of the world.
Same problem here, x1950pro AGP card, latest (9.3) catalyst driver.
Other than that the mod's pure awesome.:thumb:
Too Much Coffee on 18/10/2009 at 02:05
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You definitely only need one water arrow per torch, and they always work as long as you're reasonably on target.
No, not always definitely. What I am finding is if I am standing to the side of a torch, then the water arrows usually do not work. At least in this one room in particular. I am more than reasonably on target at varying distances. But if I am more directly in front of a torch, it works more often. Maybe it's just this level. I'll give the other two a try.
Crispy on 18/10/2009 at 02:10
Are you absolutely sure that the water shower is hitting the torch? It is harder to hit side-on, since the area of wall that's available to aim at is a lot smaller, and offset to the side a bit (remember you need to hit the bit of wall closest to the torch, not the bit of wall that appears to be visually lined up with the torch - when you're at an angle, those bits of wall can be some distance apart. If you're only looking from one angle it can look like you've hit the torch when you've actually missed it, in 3D space).
Any time I've missed putting out a torch, it's always been because my aim is off. YMMV, but I'm pretty sure we would have picked this up if it really was a mod-wide bug. :)
Trying the other missions is a good idea. :)
@mazzortock, Malleus: Cheers! Apologies for the graphics bugs; we were aware of the skybox problem but it's not clear how fixable it is, especially since it's graphics card/driver-specific. All I can suggest is to experiment with updated/older drivers.
noisycricket on 18/10/2009 at 02:28
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Alright, regrettably I am already starting to lose some love for this. I'm attempting to play Chalice of Kings. Several things proving to be annoying. No apparent way into the house other than having a direct encounter with guards. The guards are impossibly sensitive when not alerted, even on lower difficulties. They are not effectively distracted by anything, even noisemakers. One guard keeps getting stuck walking in circles. Water arrows don't always work, when they do 4 or 5 are required just to extinguish a single torch. Guards can spot me from a across a dark room when I am hiding above them in the rafters. Overall, not feeling very Thiefy as basic techniques are proving ineffective, and options are limited. Kinda seems unreasonably difficult, even for a seasoned Thief veteran. Either I'm missing something obvious, or some basic mechanics are off with this and some considerable tweaking is still needed. I realize this is just a beta and I don't expect it to be perfect. The years of hard work are obvious. Just trying to provide helpful feedback.
If you shoot a noisemaker out, then make a detectable noise via footstep or other, some may very well start searching in the direction of the sound too.
Springheel on 18/10/2009 at 02:51
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No apparent way into the house other than having a direct encounter with guards.
There is, you just have to look for it. Took me a while too my first time. You can post here for specific help with that mission: (
http://modetwo.net/darkmod/index.php?/topic/9935-fm-chalice-of-kings-by-fidcal-17-oct-09/)
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They are not effectively distracted by anything, even noisemakers.
They certainly can be, though it may take a bit of practice.
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Water arrows don't always work, when they do 4 or 5 are required just to extinguish a single torch.
It only takes one water arrow to put out a torch. If a water arrow doesn't work, it's because you've missed. Sometimes the torches that lean out diagonally from the wall cannot be put out by hitting the wall behind them...you have to hit the top of the torch itself.
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Guards can spot me from a across a dark room when I am hiding above them in the rafters.
If your lightgem is totally dark, they cannot see you regardless of where you are. If it's lit up, then yes, they will see you in the rafters.
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Trying the other missions is a good idea.
Yes, I would say Chalice of Kings is probably the trickiest of the 3 FMs, and maybe not the best one to start with.
LeatherMan on 18/10/2009 at 02:58
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I was thinking that the 3 FMs should each get their own thread, in either TTLG or TDM
public forums, since it does appear that Too Much Coffee's issues are more map-related than mod-related. It would also help separate the FMs from the mod more, as it should be and will be for all other FMs.
Springheel on 18/10/2009 at 03:00
There actually is a public thread for each of the three FMs...are you saying the link didn't work? Odd.
I know the forum was hidden from the public before release...maybe in the excitement we forgot to unhide it?
Ringer on 18/10/2009 at 03:16
Is there a way to toggle run/walk??
demagogue on 18/10/2009 at 03:18
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Guards can spot me from a across a dark room when I am hiding above them in the rafters.
If your lightgem is totally dark, they cannot see you regardless of where you are. If it's lit up, then yes, they will see you in the rafters.
One trick is, when your lightgem starts to go up a bit and you're exposed, is to crouch. Then you get a bit of a hiding-bonus so you can scurry to a less exposed area.
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Water arrows don't always work
Putting out torches does only take one water arrow, but you do have to learn where the sweet spot is. And if you miss it, it won't go out. The margin of error is less than Thief (you can't just hit the back wall). I don't know if they'll tweak that to make the margin bigger. But as it is, it's a particularlity that you can get used to. When you get a feel for where the sweet spot is, you'll know where you can and can't aim. I used to miss quite a bit at first, but now I rarely do.
