242 on 14/10/2009 at 10:50
Quote Posted by New Horizon
That's exactly the point that doesn't seem to be getting realized. The textures are a base, and you can dirty them as you like with grime and dirt decals. The grime and dirt decals can be placed in various ways, giving the same textures a different appearance from FM to FM. It's a good thing, really.
Will the grime and dirt decals be a part of the pack? And the problem is that if placing the decals is quite time consuming comparing to using ready textures, then majority of authors just won't be willing to do additional work I fear.
Fidcal on 14/10/2009 at 11:16
Yes, dirt, stain, smut, and other types of decal are included in the Release.
Don't take my comment about that one FM to be an indication that it is an impossibly huge task to add dirt decals. As I said, that FM has a lot of fine physical detail, trim, etc. so it is more work. Take a look at a more typical FM. Look at Saint Lucia at the streaks of dirt on the walls of the houses in the street. Look at the more sparse use of decals as mould in the Thief's Den basement. It is all part of the building process. And many enjoyable Thief FMs have been made without it and the same is true for Dark Mod.
Basically, dirt decals are just semi transparent sheets that you paste onto walls like cellophane with a stain on it. There is a feature in the Dark Radiant editor: Just select a surface, a wall or floor or whatever and click 'create decal'. You might need to drag it to resize it if the wall is made up of several surfaces. Then you just select the dirt decal texture you want. But to do that with the complex trim and fine recesses in that screenshot that was posted earlier as you can imagine you cannot just paste one big decal over the lot so something that complex needs more work. A typical FM the decals represent a very small part of the work involved.
Beleg Cúthalion on 14/10/2009 at 11:42
Just for the record: I think I was originally not referring to textures only, but I guess more the renderer thing (probably like the Unreal engines always get accused of looking like plastic). The shot with Renzatic's beautiful stone texture (which doesn't look bad with (
http://darkfate.ru/?show=files/fan-missions/Thief3/Hermes/screenshots/screen01) T3Ed either...sorry for the house advertising) looks more like the kind of organic that I meant, but... :erg: Don't know, maybe it's more taste than impartial judgement.
Goldmoon Dawn on 14/10/2009 at 14:42
Quote Posted by codereader
I'm doing this because I'm following an idea of creating a damn good First Person Sneaker. The lucky coincidence is that there are a hand full of people sharing mostly the same vision about what a good sneaker should look like, otherwise the team would have disbanded four years ago. And in the end everybody on the team is doing this because it feels fucking good to create something on your own - it's a creative process you're getting addicted to, which is keeping you on "alive".
:ebil: :ebil: :ebil:
Renzatic on 14/10/2009 at 15:06
Quote Posted by Melan
Aren't we all? There are even a lot of textures there that may be used for darker, more timeworn surfaces. I have used some of them, and may convert some if I make a TDM mission later on. Just check their terms of use and with the site owner if you aren't clear about something - he was very helpful to me at least.
It isn't a terms of use situation. There have been many a times I've started working on a texture, just to see someone else has already done an almost identical one from the same source shot and vice versa. It's a problem we'll all be facing as long as we're pooling from the same site.
Springheel on 14/10/2009 at 18:13
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I do know Springheel said ... the next time we 'update' the website will probably be to say we've given the beta to some sanity testers, and that the release would likely be 1 to 2 weeks from that point
Well, I did update the website two days ago.
People can do the math. :)
mazzortock on 14/10/2009 at 19:32
Quote Posted by Springheel
Well, I did update the website two
weeks ago.
People can do the math. :)
mmmmh...
:ebil:
(i'm joking of course! :cheeky: )
Ringer on 15/10/2009 at 22:02
A full 12 hours have passed and no one has posted in this thread.....
disgusting...:cheeky::cheeky:
Springheel on 15/10/2009 at 22:06
Weren't you the one who said:
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sometimes saying something is worse then saying saying nothing
:cool:
SubJeff on 16/10/2009 at 01:13
with ringer its a lot worse
