Starker on 17/8/2018 at 06:12
Are those the two options? To be completely ignored or to be made public enemy number one?
Starker on 17/8/2018 at 06:34
And there is no reaction like overreaction.
It's just vastly out of proportion compared to how Roger Ebert was treated when he criticised video games, and he was much more harsh, basically dismissing the entire medium out of hand.
Renzatic on 17/8/2018 at 06:35
I've watched, maybe, 6 minutes of one of Anita Sarkeesian's videos once. Though she made some good points, and over-exaggerated others for empty effect. I think, by the end of it all, I wasn't particularly moved either pro or con.
Never one did I did I ever consider dropping a c-bomb on her, and threatening to kill her while she sleeps. But maybe I'm just weird like that, you know?
N'Al on 17/8/2018 at 07:23
Haha, don't ever change, Abysmal.
Renzatic on 17/8/2018 at 07:27
It's one of those things that should be expected, but never tolerated. Anyone who can't state their disagreement without resorting to harassment, stalking, and death threats needs to get their asses booted to the curb.
Melan on 17/8/2018 at 08:21
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Not insane (at least until recently). Just cheap.
To quote Kurt Vonnegut, from one of his two great books:
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“Bergeron's epitaph for the planet, I remember, which he said should be carved in big letters in a wall of the grand canyon for the flying-saucer people to find was this:
WE COULD HAVE SAVED IT,
BUT WE WERE TOO DOGGONE CHEAP.
Only he didn't say "doggone.”
Starker on 17/8/2018 at 09:06
I have had the complete opposite experience with the real world. While topics on controversial issues can sometimes get heated, none of the people I know have ever tried to shut the discussion down. And especially not in public debates, though I haven't formally debated in quite a long time. Of course, I don't associate with the far left or the far right either.
Vae on 17/8/2018 at 09:48
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You even try and have a public discussion on any of the topics I mentioned earlier and OH SHIT IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG. And that really worries me as to the direction that we are heading.
This stems from anger in one's heart, which is fueled by identity politics, both on the left and the right...giving birth to violence and strife.
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If you suppress "negative" opinions then all your doing is driving them underground as you may be able to silence someone but never of their opinion.
Yes...Censoring opinions only leads to
linguistic authoritarianism, which suppresses free speech...When a person or group becomes silenced by a group or groups in a position of power, they tend to rebel in order to be heard and respected, which is exactly how civil wars begin.
This is why it is critically important to maintain "freedom of speech" for all groups of thought...because without it, a free society will become torn asunder.
Here is a recent, relevant post...
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Without critical-thinking, one naturally relies on group acceptance as a priority. This is because it's an instinct that's allowed us to survive through the millennia. As we evolved, it was simply way more important to be accepted by the tribe than to risk saying something that could get you ostracized from the group, even if it was true...because banishment from the tribe meant that you would likely die, or at least have a much harder life, if you were rugged enough.
When one is able to use critical-thinking, they are able to distinguish the difference between the instinctive motivations of group acceptance and the reasoned truths that don't always comply with the group that they're associated with. Plainly put, it feels good to have a connection with people that are thinking the same way you are, and it's good for survival...emotionally and physically.
The problem is that without reasoned truth, you get a bunch of different groups with varying values, which are constructed from beliefs and ideology. This of course creates unnecessary conflict and strife, and that is why it is extremely important to seek truth through critical-thinking.
I would say this is one of the key foundations for the future of humanity, if we are to survive.
demagogue on 17/8/2018 at 10:05
I'd say I'm considered decided Left in Texas but Center-right (really center-left or center-right depending on the issue) in a place like NYC. I think that applies to a lot of people in the middle. It's easier to just take the Political Compass test to say where you are, if you want a low-cost objective-ish (compared to most alternatives) way to tell: (
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test) I'm (0, -3), which seems about right.