DDL on 10/7/2012 at 21:00
Oh grow up.
So, question: are you human?
If yes, then your metabolism functions exactly like mine, and your dietary needs are very, very similar, unless you have a genetic disorder (in which case asking the internet for advice should not be the first port of call).
Your sense of hunger I never even commented on, other than taking on board what you'd posted.
What your diet might be lacking (if anything) I can only speculate on (if you really want me to), but trust me, it's very, very difficult to get properly malnourished. If you think you have symptoms severe enough to be thinking you're massively malnourished, then I would see a doctor, as it's far more likely to be something entirely unrelated to diet.
I just can't help but think you're asking for sympathy here, rather than help. You seem incredibly defensive at the merest suggestion that it might not be "all about the food, yo", and you respond to suggestions of alternatives with accusations of "not listening to me". If you simply want your conjectures reinforced, then fine, I'll let someone else do that for you (if anyone is willing), but honestly, unless you're doing something incredibly incredibly wrong (like living on nothing but celery), it's damn near impossible to get malnourished to the point at which you'd notice and worry. The body is a remarkable survival machine.
Brian The Dog on 10/7/2012 at 21:14
Timely thread for me, as I have just joined my local gymn last week, after never having been in one. Since I'm horribly unfit, I'm just doing simple running and cycling for the moment to get into it. Also, since I have a bad back, I end up having to quit on the treadmill after about 800m even though I'm not even sweating. I get on much better with the cross-trainer though.
Normally I would play cricket, which would help with fitness, but with the bad rainfall here in the UK this has taken a lull recently.
Yakoob on 10/7/2012 at 21:25
I grew up when I realized it's pointless to argue with you. You are naive in thinking everyone functions exactly the same, and keep on clinging to your assumptions about me, like your insistence that I am worried about my weight despite me explain several time's that's not my concern.
DDL on 10/7/2012 at 21:36
Then please, for the love of fucking benjy, explain exactly what your concern IS, because you're vacillating all over the shop.
For reference, I did a PhD in metabolism. Basic human metabolism does not change all that much, and even people with severe metabolic disorders manage to bodge their way through most of the time:
"lacking an enzyme to synthesise a cofactor?" BAM: dietary cofactor. FIXORED.
"lacking the ability to absorb dietary component X?" BAM: dietary supplement of a precursor. FIXORED.
If you actually want help, then please be more informative (and consistent), and less defensive.
LarryG on 10/7/2012 at 22:43
DDL & Yakoob: Maybe take it offline? At least off the public postings. Go PM or something. If, after you have it all worked out, you want to, come back an post for everyone's benefit (or not). But for now, cool your jets in public, OK?
Muzman on 11/7/2012 at 10:02
I dunno. I'm finding it rather enlightening. Calorie counting's boring so folks move to ratios instead? I had no idea. What's next, differential calculus?
Seriously, if someone is on the office hunger cycle, as I like to call it, when you're hungry all the time , the thing is don't actually eat. Go do sit ups or something.
Really. Exercise kills the appetite for a little while. Office grazing is frequently just chasing a mild sugar high to keep you alert through your tedious job and its attendant eye strain.
I know every asshole's got a theory about this stuff and I don't know if it's exactly the topic at hand, but it seems like reasonable general advice that has worked for people.
Sombras on 11/7/2012 at 13:26
Quote Posted by Muzman
Office grazing is frequently just chasing a mild sugar high to keep you alert through your tedious job and its attendant eye strain.
This is the truth, man. Office grazing is evil since it almost always involves crap "food". I shitcanned our office's practice of keeping a well-stocked bucket--not a jar or modestly-seized basket--but
bucket of candy at the front desk. I had noticed that the front office staff who were so invested in providing junk to co-workers, clients, and visitors got a charge out of convincing people to take it, even after they had initially refused. After a while, I got the disturbing sense that getting people to eat candy somehow validated their own eating habits. Ending this practice saved us money and, in spite of the resentment of the front office staff, we received not a single complaint.
Stitch on 11/7/2012 at 15:38
Quote Posted by Sombras
I'm dry-humping Stitch in response to his recent posts in this thread. That's
gotta burn a couple hundred calories right there.
what you gonna burn once we get outta the foreplay :cool:
And yeah, office grazing is horrible because for the most part it amounts to calories bereft of nourishment that aren't really enjoyed all that much. Eat because you're hungry or because you
really want that indulgence, but not just because it's habit or you're
bored.
One should also learn the difference between feeling true hunger and feeling just snack-y. The two are often confused.
And while I don't necessarily agree with DDL on everything here, it does seem like Yakoob is participating in a different thread than the rest of us.
Yakoob on 12/7/2012 at 01:34
Quote Posted by Muzman
Office grazing is frequently just chasing a mild sugar high to keep you alert through your tedious job and its attendant eye strain.
Oh yea, hunger is just as physical as it is psychological, and I think we've all snacked because we were bored before :p That's why I like to get out and sit at, like, a cafe to do my web work, change of scenery and all that.
Quote:
And while I don't necessarily agree with DDL on everything here, it does seem like Yakoob is participating in a different thread than the rest of us.
Yea I did kinda hijack into my own "[e/n] wah wah wheres my protinz ;_;" thats why Im just dropping the whole thing; this (and few other conversations elsewhere) did help me out sort some shit out so it wasnt completely useless :p
theBlackman on 12/7/2012 at 01:39
Not a damned thing. I smoke, sit on my arse, eat beef and little salad or veggies. As I said, ' Not a damn thing."
