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Bruny on 23/6/2001 at 16:14

This was a GREAT mission! I had so much fun playing this. One reason is because Escape and The Sword are my two most favorite missions in Thief 1 and this mission really conjured up memories. It's great that some FM authors will spend so much time and energy on something so risky and different, not sure how fun it would turn out to be.

I finished it on Expert. I was puzzled for awhile at the end because the mission wouldn't end where it was supposed to. I explored around a bit more, came back to the same place, tried again, paused for a moment and it finally ended.

I'm not accusing anybody of being untruthful but I sure wish there was a way to record a demo or something of somebody actually completing this on expert with just one rope arrow. Let's say I remain somewhat dubious.

Martek on 23/6/2001 at 18:03

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Originally posted by Bruny:
actually completing this on expert with just one rope arrow. Let's say I remain somewhat dubious.

I had three at a time deployed more than once. I *probably* could have got by with two - once I knew how things were layed out. I kept it in mind that I *only* needed one as I played, but I'm not sure how I could have succeeded with just one.

Cheers,
Martek

Keeper of Metal and Gold on 23/6/2001 at 18:04

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Originally posted by Bruny:
I'm not accusing anybody of being untruthful but I sure wish there was a way to record a demo or something of somebody actually completing this on expert with just one rope arrow. Let's say I remain somewhat dubious.

Thanks for the compliments on the mission. As far as using only 1 rope arrow, I myself have done it, and yes, on Expert! But since I MADE the mission, I am the most familiar with the terrain and such, so I'd be surprised if anyone else ever did the mission with only 1 rope arrow. The trick is in the climbing without any rope arrows to most places. You'd be surprised how much Garrett can mantle and climb up slopes if you do it just right :)

Hit Deity on 24/6/2001 at 03:23

YES!! This mission has helped hone my Garrett skills somewhat. I was able to get into areas that would have previously required a rope arrow, but I was able to get Garrett to move diagonally and jump/mantle into places I didn't think I could get before.

But, alas, I need a minimum of 3 rope arrows to finish the mission....on Slow Toes at that. :( I envy anyone who can get by with 2 or even 1...and on the harder difficulties...amazing!! <IMG SRC="thumb.gif" border="0">

brother taffer on 24/6/2001 at 14:49

Tricks for getting up places:

-lean forward while Garrett is moving up a slope. Hold down the lean key, this works well.

-walk at a forty five degree angle by pushing runforward and runsideways at the same time. This builds up speed for jumping and going up slopes.

-hit crouch and uncrouch really quick for a sudden boost (you don't have time to slide backwards when you hit crouch, and hitting uncrouch gives you a boost forward.)

xarax on 14/7/2001 at 03:56

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Originally posted by Jocke:
Sharga, I have the exact same problem. The level finishes when I get all the loot. So far I've seen this on 'The Varyx Obelisk' 'Gellers Pride' and 'The Great Tree'. It's so annoying! It takes the fun out of exploring....Mumble mumle... Grr! etc.

Sorry about that bug. It should've been fixed in version 1.4b of 'The Varyx Obelisk'. What difficulty level were you playing when it happened? On higher difficulties, an early end was also happening when you found Black Blade after achieving all of the other objectives (the "New Objectives" didn't appear for the end-game). eek! I thought I had fixed those bugs in 1.4b. :confused:

[ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: xarax ]

The_Keepress on 21/7/2001 at 01:55

Like The Great Tree, huh? Just wait for his next mission... <IMG SRC="wot.gif" border="0">

<Username> on 18/1/2020 at 16:46

Finished on Slow Toes in 37 minutes with 6000 of 15000 total loot. I felt The Great Tree was a fun, unusual mission. Well done!

When I read the mission objectives, I was initially worried all the healing fruit would be hidden in easily overlooked crevices or extremely hard to access locations. It turned out the loot goal was not too difficult to achieve, at least on Slow Toes: I found 5 healing fruit before I got to the second tree house and quickly found 3 more on that level without even trying. When I reached the Resurrection Fruit, I decided to explore the area before ending the mission and found another 4 nearby.

I appreciated how the mission info file tells the player what the differences between the three difficulty levels are with regards to starting equipment and amount of enemies. More missions should do that.

One very minor point of criticism: The mission objectives are written in third-person. I prefer mission objectives written in first-person because it makes me feel like I am reading Garrett's thoughts. This emphasizes I experience everything from his perspective. In contrast, third-person establishes a viewpoint of the player looking at what is happening from the outside, which emotionally adds a distance between myself and the action.

Karras35 on 31/1/2020 at 22:43

Komag, I love this FM so much!;) Played it 15 years ago and was playing it recently. Its awesome!:thumb:

Hit Deity on 1/2/2020 at 02:25

Quote Posted by Karras35

Komag, I love this FM so much!;) Played it 15 years ago and was playing it recently. Its awesome!:thumb:

This was Ben's latest profile; that original one was abandoned in 2001. So, he'd probably be glad to hear praise about one of his FMs.
(https://www.ttlg.com/forums/member.php?u=6826)

I'm sure he still gets his emails. Last activity about a year ago. Ben is a super-nice guy, got sidetracked with real life like someone else I know (myself). You could email him, he'd probably respond pretty quick.

Think it might be time for a reunion anyway...