Dia on 24/2/2018 at 13:53
Quote Posted by Al_B
I don't blame him for that. Being armed and trained doesn't mean you're ready to confront that type of situation where your life is in danger - I wouldn't be surprised if the most "gung ho" hero of the shooting range doesn't lock up when confronted with their own mortality.
I agree that one can never foresee how they will react in a life-threatening situation. Please understand, I'm having trouble controlling my emotions on this subject due to the fact that I'm a mother and grandmother and can
not understand how anyone could stand outside an open door and hear children screaming in fear and pain and not do anything to help those children? There you are, a trained law enforcement officer and you're armed; you hear those kids screaming, some in agony, and you've been trained to protect, you've had more than a couple of decades of experience, yet you do nothing? I'm no hero, but just watching/listening to some of the videos from inside the classrooms that those students recorded on their cells tore my heart out and instinctively made me want to run to them and try to help them, protect them. I can't imagine a person hearing children screaming in pain and not instinctively wanting to rush in and protect them. Especially if that person has a weapon that could be used to help those children. My brain is stuck.
heywood on 24/2/2018 at 14:12
Same here Dia. Then again, maybe this particular cop chose this duty assignment specifically because he didn't have the stomach/confidence/whatever to risk his life performing other law enforcement duties.
icemann on 24/2/2018 at 16:16
Trump's logic that armed teachers = An end to mass shootings as they would (in theory) shoot the offenders is just ludicrous.
Over here in Aus, we had 1 mass shooting. Banned automatic weapons straight after. Not had a single mass shooting ever since.
To quote one of the survivors of the shooting, it's all BS by corrupt officials who themselves are receiving funding by the NRA. I don't see anything ever changing however, unless there is a HUGE public response with protest marches and unrest over a long time period. Unless that happens then this will forever be swept under the rug.
Tocky on 24/2/2018 at 17:27
Quote Posted by heywood
Red herring. The 2nd Amendment wasn't enacted to protect hunting.
I hope this was dry humor. I was speaking of where we have come as a nation from our early days. I was speaking of our soul as a nation and not the amendment which allows the degradation of it.
Gryzemuis on 24/2/2018 at 17:56
Quote Posted by icemann
Unless that happens then this will forever be swept under the rug.
The discussion on guns in the US is over.
The discussion was over 5 years ago.
26 People were shot. In Sandy Hook. 20 of them were very young children.
And most Americans didn't give a fuck. Nothing. Nada.
"Fuck you, I like guns".
There is nothing left to discuss.
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https://i.redd.it/wr4p2tvl5ig01.jpgTocky on 25/2/2018 at 01:27
The gun nuts are claiming it didn't happen. They will say anything to avoid guilt. I just had one on FB claim the AR 15 with a thirty round banana clip and bump stock was the same as a wooden stock with a five round clip and THEN I had to explain the tell tale things to look at to determine that because he is both biased AND gun illiterate. Fucking amazing. Little boys who like to go pow with guns to make them feel big while kids die and NOTHING will get done.
icemann on 25/2/2018 at 03:58
As I said, for things to change the public needs to rise up and fight this. If that doesn't happen then nothing will change. This sort of things needs a big public reaction over a long time frame. Not 1 protest down the street, or a few people saying things infront of the camera. It needs continued action. Then and only then might things change, and even then only in a few states maybe. But any change would = good change.
Renzatic on 25/2/2018 at 04:25
It's not going to change in the immediate future, that's for sure. We're in an election year, after all. No one's going to go so far as to make a direct comment on the issue until after the midterms.
ffox on 25/2/2018 at 10:08
A defeatist attitude isn't going to help. Neither will hoping that future mass shootings are unlikely to happen. There is some momentum for change now, with big companies getting in on the act - keep it going rather than let it peter out. It would make a good election issue imho.
Medlar on 25/2/2018 at 12:40
Would it be possible to turn all schools and colleges into no gun zones as airports are? It would cost millions but if every person had to go through full security checks before getting into educational facilities it would be worth it.
I believe it is an impossibility to change the gun culture of the American way of life, so the only answer is to circumvent it. If you can build a wall between countries then you can build one around schools.
