Tomi on 17/1/2016 at 23:22
Haha that's awesome.
nicked on 18/1/2016 at 07:16
Came into this thread expecting some amount of serious dialogue regarding Quentin Tarantino's use of the n-word. Was not disappointed.
N'Al on 18/1/2016 at 07:41
I liked The Hateful Eight.
henke on 25/1/2016 at 06:42
Yup, me too. Tho not as much as his last couple movies. There are a few laughs, but I'd say next to Jackie Brown, this is the most serious movie he's done. Also surprising to see a Tarantino with, like, a message.
Also, am I crazy in thinking that Walton Goggins' character is the hero of this tale? (or at least as close as the movie gets to having a hero) He starts out as a scoundrel, probably a racist, and maybe a bit dim, but in the end the does the right, non-scoundrelly, thing, takes the side of the black guy, and figures it all out on his own.
Sulphur on 25/1/2016 at 06:53
Does the right thing by participating in 'frontier' justice? Dunno if that makes someone a hero, but it definitely makes him more complex than the dim twit he initially seems to be.
Also, I probably found the censoring of various words by zoog in this thread more hilarious than you lot would, because when I went for the movie, it had the worst censorship job ever. As some of you may know, I live in commie pinko conservatist hoodoo land India, so some of these movies are laboriously worked over by the internal censorship bureau.
Someone says 'fuck', and you hear it just right. Someone says 'bitch' and there's a half-second of silence in place. Then someone says 'fuck' again and it's silenced. At some point random words got left out. Later, I guess someone misheard the words 'sales pitch' for 'sales bitch', because that was cut off too. Someone gets shot in the head, and we see the spray just fine, but someone then chops an arm off with a hatchet, and that's a couple of seconds of film reel scotched right off. It was so bizarre that all I and the person I was with could do was laugh. Inappropriately.
henke on 25/1/2016 at 08:39
Was anything cut out of the flashback scene where Marquis Warren tells the old General about what he did to his son? That one was the hardest to stomach, imo. Really sunk the entire audience into an uncomfortable silence.
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Does the right thing by participating in 'frontier' justice?
Hmm. Ok, I suppose he might've been able to take her into town as well. That would've been better. I was mainly referring to him not taking Daisy up on her offer to let her go in exchange for his life. The way he's portrayed at the start of the movie he seems like he'd have no qualms about taking that deal.
catbarf on 25/1/2016 at 15:43
I really liked it, and I'm generally not a Tarantino fan. I saw the 70mm showing a little over a month ago and went to go see the regular release earlier this month. Of the two the 70mm is the better film IMO, so I'm interested to see whether it comes out on DVD. It's even longer than the regular release, but I think the added scenes benefit the movie, and personally I didn't feel like it dragged because the dialogue was well-done.
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The way he's portrayed at the start of the movie he seems like he'd have no qualms about taking that deal.
What I liked the most about the movie is how it plays with expectations. I know we're talking about spoilers already but I'll go ahead and spoiler this.
Expecting a whodunnit as they narrow down the list of suspects to the one assassin? Nope, they're all in on it. Expecting the movie to be about these men all locked up in a room, figuring out who the villain is? Nope, there's another unmentioned character under the floorboards, and he's the mastermind. Expecting the racist, belligerent yee-haw Southern rebel wannabe to betray Jackson's character in the end? Nope, he's not a fool, and refusing her offer is entirely consistent with his character. And that's what I really liked, the plot is internally consistent, it just goes in a different direction from what I expected based on the genre and common tropes.So yeah, I thought it was pretty good, and the score by Morricone is great. Apparently about half of the score is actually music he wrote for The Thing, but was unused when Carpenter decided to only repeat the main theme throughout the movie.
Sulphur on 25/1/2016 at 20:48
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Was anything cut out of the flashback scene where Marquis Warren tells the old General about what he did to his son? That one was the hardest to stomach, imo. Really sunk the entire audience into an uncomfortable silence.
Well, let's see. There was a naked man trudging through the snow, which somehow got left in because why not. I believe we were spared a close-up. Then while describing the act, the words 'pecker' and 'johnson' were muted but not the word 'dick'. I think I heard 'dingus' somewhere. It sort of ruined the scene, but I managed to feel fresh revulsion for the characters as well as the censor board at the same time, so that's actually probably an unexpected bonus.
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Hmm. Ok, I suppose he might've been able to take her into town as well. That would've been better. I was mainly referring to him not taking Daisy up on her offer to let her go in exchange for his life. The way he's portrayed at the start of the movie he seems like he'd have no qualms about taking that deal.
Honestly, he just traded one wrong in for another. Interesting from a morally relativist perspective, and as catbarf mentioned, in the way it subverts expectations. It's just too bad that his character (well, almost all of the characters) has almost no depth beyond being a question mark in the storytelling.
Thor on 26/1/2016 at 12:53
I liked that nobody survived and that the last people breathing who may yet hope to survive were the least shit people of that bunch. It was also pretty satisfying to see the bitch finally hang. Other than that yeah too long and nothing special by any stretch of the imagination. Also I wonder if Samuel L. Jackson is also getting as tired as me of Tarantino making movies that spam the word 'nigger' like The Wire spammed the word 'fuck'. But hey, since he participates in every one of them, I guess not.
