Phatose on 17/12/2008 at 23:47
"OMG evil law, evil law" chicken little bullshit doesn't say anything about why the government isn't responsible for policing this kind of thing.
a flower in hell on 18/12/2008 at 00:45
Quote Posted by Phatose
Really, DRM shouldn't be an issue because the companies shouldn't be the ones responsible for stemming piracy. It should be the police.
Placing copyright infringement in the realm of criminal law will have roughly the same effect as Prohibition did.
Phatose on 18/12/2008 at 01:22
Bull. Prohibition made it entirely illegal to get alcohol. It failed because the demand remained, and there was no legal channel to get it.
Obviously, this is not the case with piracy. Software isn't going to magically become unobtainable, you'll just have to use the legitimate methods you should've been using anyway.
Phatose on 18/12/2008 at 05:27
Well, at least it's a new airplane. But since I clearly missed it, what is the point?
Mr.Duck on 18/12/2008 at 06:05
Quote Posted by Zillameth
Yes, yes -- everybody's favourite flame topic
That would more likely be the eternal bickering between PC gamers and Console gamers, silly boy.
In any case, booyah.
:)
june gloom on 18/12/2008 at 06:38
Quote Posted by Phatose
Well, at least it's a new airplane. But since I clearly missed it, what is the point?
The
point was, just because you make something illegal doesn't mean people will stop doing it. And worse, by criminalizing software piracy, you're just going to make pirates more dangerous. When hardcore pirates start to fear being raided by the po-po, what do you think they'll do? They'll arm themselves. Oh wait, that's illegal too in some places, so I guess nobody will do that either.
You can't force restrictive DRM on people. They won't accept it. They'll either steal it or not buy it. Either way it's a lost sale and no amount of government involvement is going to improve profits until legitimate customers are no longer treated like criminals for the crime of
buying something. The music industry is slowly starting to figure this shit out. Sooner or later, so will the game industry- either that or they'll all run to consoles where the question of piracy is largely moot. Until then the best we can hope for is that the government stays the fuck out of it, because the only thing government can do is fuck everything up.
ercles on 18/12/2008 at 07:01
Hah, I enjoyed the way you just worked yourself up throughout the entire post. Besides the slightly humorous image of rebellious anarchic nerds holing themselves up in some apartment with a bunch of guns pirating software, I think that dethtoll pretty well sums it up.
But I have to ask, why not just explain it the first time? Apart from the points for being slick and posting the old hat plane flying overhead thing, what's really the point?
Koki on 18/12/2008 at 09:40
On the subject of Steam ripping people off:
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http://store.steampowered.com/news/) Products on Steam are now priced using local currency in the United Kingdom (Pounds Sterling), and Europe (Euros). All other countries remain in United States Dollars.
Go Valve!
june gloom on 18/12/2008 at 11:06
Quote Posted by ercles
Hah, I enjoyed the way you just worked yourself up throughout the entire post. Besides the slightly humorous image of rebellious anarchic nerds holing themselves up in some apartment with a bunch of guns pirating software, I think that dethtoll pretty well sums it up.
But I have to ask, why not just explain it the first time? Apart from the points for being slick and posting the old hat plane flying overhead thing, what's really the point?
Phatose had missed AFiH's really obvious point. I was simply explaining the obvious. After making fun of him for it.
