Yakoob on 1/9/2011 at 13:57
Quote Posted by dethtoll
How about Trine? Or Super Meat Boy? Or VVVVVV? Or Bionic Commando Rearmed? Or H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
Oh you mean indie productions I already addressed like a page back?
Because you're blinded by your trollovision:
Quote Posted by Yakoob
Not really; this "rebirth in sidescrollers" (as if they ever died) is not caused by nostalgia or fantastic gameplay (seriously, 90% of them play exactly the same), but simply the fact anything more complex is out of the reach for an indie team / garage programmer these days. And platforms like Steam and XNA made indie development far more possible than it used to be, hence why such a sudden influx of copypasta platformers and puzzle games.
And if you are referring to non-indies, then Super New Mario Bros, Megaman and Bionic Commando are about the only ones I can think of that come from the "big boys..." among their constant rehashes of old platformers. Either way, I don't see any resurgence; just same flux as always, with the exception of indie scene outline above.
Malf on 1/9/2011 at 16:34
Soooooo, ignoring all the fluff and stuff about 2D platformers and whether they ever went away or not, I am personally incredibly hyped about this, but then Dungeon Master is quite possibly my favourite game ever. I loved it so much, I even completed it with 1 party member. I'm sure this will be nowhere near as hard as DM (seriously, I went back to it recently thanks to the magic of (
http://dmweb.free.fr/) and some of the puzzles are mind warpers that today's audience would balk at. YOU NEEDED GRAPH PAPER TO SOLVE THEM!), but it doesn't stop me looking forward to it.
I just hope the experience system works the same, where you get experience from doing stuff.
My all-stars Dungeon Master team, that I still remember to this day?
Hissssa & Halk up front bashing the shit out of things with Wuuf and Tiggy in the back line, blasting the buggery out of things with Mon Ful Ir :D
dexterward on 1/9/2011 at 18:15
This is very encouraging, if not for hopeful resurgence of classic graph-based dungeon crawling, then also because it`s not (well, hopefully) yet-another-post-ironic-indie-RPG. With Zombies or Cthulhu in it, or taking a piss out of jRpgs while at the same time copying them extensively.
Also, for non believers, the hint`s in the genre`s name. It`s not about superintelligently amusing plots, greatly developed characters or just plain old tits. Nah, tough-as-nails dungeon crawling more like.
Along Age Of Decadence new Great wRpg Hope.
Pyrian on 1/9/2011 at 20:24
Quote Posted by Muzman
Didn't the image of a six person party crammed into two metres squared, unable to move, amuse you endlessly as you shuffled them around like some college prank or bucks night outcome?
It amused me more when your six person party in a two meter square encountered four groups of 99 skeletons packed into the same two meter square. This resulted in "The Skeleton Closet" showing up in one of my friend's D&D games: a 10x10 closet packed to the brim with animated bones too cramped to actually move much.
june gloom on 1/9/2011 at 22:00
lol "trollovision"
disagreeing with you isn't trolling
christ, even sneaksie isn't this much of an oversensitive ninny
grow up
and the point is, you're wrong about Nintendo and you're clearly just getting your opinions off /v/ or something, so why don't you try and educate yourself for once instead of spouting out ignorant bullshit then getting offended when someone calls you out on it
Yakoob on 2/9/2011 at 18:39
Saying, I am wrong isn't trolling. Saying I am wrong to every of my posts without providing any rationale is. Especially since I did provide rationale on my side; I gave you a list of countless Nintendo rehashes and you are still arguing Nintendo doesn't rehash it's old titles. And you are calling me ignorant?
And I did ask about the non-indie and non-rehashed platformers out there because I genuinely can't think of too many besides the three already mentioned here. But instead of answering my question you call me ignorant. Umm, ok.
june gloom on 2/9/2011 at 18:49
Except EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING IS WRONG. More than that, you tend to completely ignore my arguments and claim I'm not backing my shit up.
That "list" you gave me? Most of those aren't rehashes, they're ports. Do you understand this concept? At all? Nintendo's constantly bringing their old games to new systems to keep the money going. It's not the same thing as a rehash. Ocarina of Time is a rehash of Link to the Past (and better, too.) Ocarina of Time 3D isn't a rehash of Ocarina of Time, it's a port with some updated graphics. Hell, OoT and Majora's Mask are on the fucking Wii's Virtual Console, right alongside Zelda 1, 2 and LttP.
But if you want to call them rehashes, well who's going to stop you? Some people take being wrong very seriously.
Stitch on 2/9/2011 at 19:39
Quote Posted by Yakoob
Oh it's actually a new game? My bad, I didn't notice under the veil of everything looking the same. Still, I'd hardly call that a resurgence in side-scrollers exactly because there is a constant stream of old rehashes. Megaman 9 is about the only other "new" notable example I can think of; what else is there?
Well, the other few that I'd say refute your argument are
OH MY GOD WHO FUCKING CARESMy point is sometimes when tech moves on from a certain style of game, years later people might find that they might miss a certain something that the subsequent "improvements" lost. I brought up the example of sidescrollers because for awhile in the late 90's/early 2000's it seemed new A-list entries were rare and in the last five years or so I've seen and purchased a few. THAT'S IT. I was not trying to sign into law a recognition that sidescrollers evaporated like a pile of pogs and have now suddenly returned as a dominant gaming genre that will prove the unifying catalyst for peace on the Gaza Strip.
Bottom line: The Legend of Grimrock is going to rock my shit :cool:
Stitch on 2/9/2011 at 19:56
motherfukkin BLOODWYCH
