Martin Karne on 24/2/2011 at 13:23
Quote Posted by Kolya
Yeah, but I don't want to die, nor do you I presume, so what's your point?
Also if, following your weird eschatology, all humans would die tomorrow, it would be but a Pyrrhic victory for the cows, because without the proper maintenance of humans, most of them would die as well soon.
One of the problems I see with the bug substitute is that cows are used for a lot more than just meat, eg all kinds of milk products. Show me a bug that can make cheese.
My point is this, we point the finger to everything but ourselves causing this mess, from the sun cycles, to the ants smoking weed, some self responsibility would be just great, or die by the millions when world population will be unsustainable, just a recent look at the BBC news, a few years ago, world fish population scaled down to 50% because of over fishing.
How close are we to a global starvation situation?
the_grip on 24/2/2011 at 19:40
yeah my coworkers are from Denmark, and they rave about a cheese that you bury in the ground in an unwashed pot and wait for things to grow in it. It moves under a microscope, apparently. One guy has had a jar in their family for 30 some odd years, never been washed, and they make cheese in it all the time. I would love to try it :)
Sg3 on 27/2/2011 at 16:03
Absolutely horrifying. Blows me mind.
What I want to know is, which is more efficient: farming insects, or farming soy to produce tofu?
demagogue on 1/3/2011 at 01:13
Nothing better than a buglunch. Bach lobster! Ahhh ahhh ahhh ahhh... dum dum doditty dum...
Sorry, what was the question?
Agriculture is a major contributor to global warming. You want a regime that covers all the major bases, and it's good to start with low-hanging fruit and voluntary disciplines. Probably wouldn't have much impact unless there was some real scale to it, but sometimes voluntary disciplines take off... like recycling did.
But anyway, even aside from that (I don't see it taking off either), getting people to think in terms of their carbon footprints is an accomplishment of its own, like getting overweight people think about their calorie in-take. You don't have to be dogmatic about it, but just people realizing there's a number there they have some control over makes a difference on the whole. And this is just one more memorable way to get people thinking in those terms, even if they don't take the practice itself all that seriously. But I don't see this to save a few stones of carbon as any more crazy than people taking out the yolks of eggs to save a few calories. It's not like the atmosphere cares what the source is.
Sg3 on 2/3/2011 at 00:54
Quote Posted by demagogue
sometimes voluntary disciplines take off... like recycling did.
My family recycled for years. Then one day they found out that the people who were supposed to be taking the stuff to a plant to be recycled were simply throwing it in a landfill. I suspect that this is more prevalent than anyone would like to think.
Kolya on 2/3/2011 at 12:37
How does the criminal failure of anyone else acquit you of doing the right thing?
Surely once that company had been found out they were punished and replaced.
Was that when you stopped recycling?
the_grip on 2/3/2011 at 14:42
Quote Posted by Sg3
My family recycled for years. Then one day they found out that the people who were supposed to be taking the stuff to a plane to be recycled were simply throwing it in a landfill. I suspect that this is more prevalent than anyone would like to think.
Actually it is. From what I understand, recycling only goes to recycling plants when collected by a city if it is economically viable. Supposedly the costs fluctuate quite a bit... so there are definitely times when recycling goes to the regular 'ol landfill.
Additionally, people tend to drive up recycling costs because they don't understand what to recycle - for example, the slick cardboardy milk cartons? Not recyclable. All of the extra junk adds some overhead cost.
