Renault on 9/2/2019 at 21:32
Quote Posted by Bulgarian_Taffer
So, if you like Thief (2014), you aren't a true Thief fan?
You appear to have serious issues with reading comprehension. Please try again!
DarkMax on 9/2/2019 at 21:40
Yeah 20+ missions and new authors= short lived potential. Thief (2014) is objectively a bad game, and it has nothing to do with modern game design.
Quote Posted by Bulgarian_Taffer
There are reasons why this happened.
Yeah? Like what?
Bulgarian_Taffer on 9/2/2019 at 21:44
Thief (2014) was great in some aspects, like graphics, level design and architecture. It felt short on storytelling, and its unforgivable sin was that it trashed the established lore (Hammerites, Pagans). It was a decent game.
Renault on 9/2/2019 at 21:46
Quote Posted by Bulgarian_Taffer
What about an event dedicated to the 20th anniversary of Thief, with a huge potential to reignite the interest in the game, but that potential was short-lived? That's another thing.
There are reasons why this happened.
Seriously BT, you've moved on from just being illiterate to being completely nonsensical. Please tell us why you think the last contest didn't live up to it's potential.
Although, maybe if you would have covered the event more thoroughly in Bulgaria, this wouldn't have happened.
Bulgarian_Taffer on 9/2/2019 at 22:02
Quote Posted by Brethren
Seriously BT, you've moved on from just being illiterate to being completely nonsensical. Please tell us why you think the last contest didn't live up to it's potential.
Although, maybe if you would have covered the event more thoroughly in Bulgaria, this wouldn't have happened.
You are right. I could have done it, but after that harassment on Twitter, I don't think I'll ever will.
But this is off-topic. Now, to answer your question. Living in the past doesn't help. Don't get me wrong - I know that Thief is an old game. People love it and create missions for an old game. I get it. Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. Classical poetry is cool. People still write classical poetry, but art in general has moved beyond that. We're living in the 21st century.
The same applies to gaming. Seriously, people... We're having a discussion about using stock or custom resources? We're not talking about changing mechanics or gameplay. We're not trying to reinvent the wheel. We're having a poll about whether the next contest should use stock resources or authors should feel free to use custom ones... And what does the person who organizes the contest say?
"we're going to have reactions like this I think it's best to just disregard everyone's opinions at this point"...
This is beyond pathetic.
Okay.
Good luck living in the bubble.
DirkBogan on 9/2/2019 at 22:03
Perhaps if the 20th Anniversary Contest was intended to usher in a new era of popularity for TDP among the mainstream of gaming, one might consider its impact a failure. Considering that the original game had only sold 500,000 copies by May 2000 (LGS biggest commercial success!) and has almost certainly sold less than that many again over the past twenty years, I can't imagine anybody on this forum expected or intended for it to suddenly become a massive staple in the zeitgeist.
The game was niche when it was new, for goodness sake. What percentage of people who play video games go back and play twenty year old games they've never played before, irrespective of how good they are or how active the community around them is?
Bulgarian_Taffer on 9/2/2019 at 22:15
Quote Posted by DirkBogan
Perhaps if the 20th Anniversary Contest was intended to usher in a new era of popularity for TDP among the mainstream of gaming, one might consider its impact a failure. Considering that the original game had only sold 500,000 copies by May 2000 (LGS biggest commercial success!) and has almost certainly sold less than that many again over the past twenty years, I can't imagine
anybody on this forum expected or intended for it to suddenly become a massive staple in the zeitgeist.
Call me stupid if you want, I don't care.
I did.
I think that the Thief gameplay and setting is a gem that awaits to be discovered by the general audience. Yes, it's a niche game. But to think that it's impossible to become mainstream, I don't believe that. Perhaps the reason is lack of trying.
DrK on 9/2/2019 at 22:30
B_T, you're just butthurt about skacky blocking you on twitter or something... His comment in this thread was in response to someone saying "the poll doesn't go my way so it's an absurd one" in essence. It was probably a tactless thing to say on both ends, but now you're trying to come back at him one way or another and it has nothing to do with the discussion it ensued.
The thread derailed a bit but it sparked an interesting discussion. I agree we should discuss in another thread about how to improve our FM designs, a collective effort to try to minimize common design flaws in FMs and maybe take inspiration in good modern game design.
Bulgarian_Taffer on 9/2/2019 at 22:33
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B_T, you're just butthurt about skacky blocking you on twitter or something...
It's not something. It's harassment. Let's call what happened with its real name, right?
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The thread derailed a bit but it sparked an interesting discussion. I agree we should discuss in another thread about how to improve our FM designs, a collective effort to try to minimize common design flaws in FMs and maybe take inspiration in good modern game design.
Absolutely agree.
DrK on 9/2/2019 at 22:36
To my knowledge he didn't go after you, try to deplatform you or whatever else harassment would qualify as. If you consider a disagreement, a block and a couple mean words as harassment, twitter must be a rough place for you...
