Thief 2 FM - The Art of Thievery (Dec. 8, 2001) - by Nightwalker
odourpreventer on 10/1/2002 at 01:20
I'm playing Art on GhOsT, and I'm wondering:<br /><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">The Tool box key I found on the glass house balcony, where does it go? There's a button in the ceiling of an open fire, but pressing it doesn't seem to do much. What's it for?</font></div></blockquote>
Nightwalker on 10/1/2002 at 01:53
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">The tool box key has no use. It wasn't supposed to be there, but, ahem, a stupid betatester (me) <img src="redface.gif" border="0"> missed seeing it. As for the button, if you're in the room I think you're in, look for two more buttons in the same room. </font></div></blockquote>
Footpad on 3/1/2002 at 05:51
Hey I am almost done on expert, if any one knows any other secrets I'm missing four, I wouls appreciate any help. Oh Nightwalker I reloaded the mission and it works fine. I had to start over, I was almost finished last time.
Footpad <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="cool.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/sly.gif" border="0" alt="[Sly]" /> <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
Nightwalker on 3/1/2002 at 13:01
YAAAAY! I'm glad you got to play it. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
I'll e-mail you the list of secrets.
gmcdorman on 9/1/2002 at 13:35
I played through the Art of Thievery on Easy about three weeks ago. Now I am starting to replay it on hard. I went in through the third floor window of the Angel Room. Now, on Easy the lights were off, but on Hard they were not so I got a different look at the room. I noticed a door in one of the corners that I hadn't gone over to on Easy. This room was the Shrine for the Lord's Late Wife. Because I never looked over there and because I was a little short of treasure at the end on Easy, I don't know if this little room is just something I missed or if it is a little extra for the Hard difficulty. I'd like to know the answer to that, please, but I am also wondering if anyone has compiled a list of the things that change at each difficulty level. I don't mean guards or things like that, just new rooms and secrets. If someone has compiled such a list could someone tell me where to find it? Or post it here? I'd really appreciate it.
Nightwalker on 9/1/2002 at 14:31
The shrine is there on Easy, you must have just missed it. There are 3 new secrets on Hard and 4 more than that on Expert. A lot of things change on each difficulty setting in this mission, which gives it a very high replay value, if you start on the easiest setting. I can't imagine why you would want a list, as that would sort of spoil things. The locations of the paintings change each time, some key placements change and, on Hard, you will gain access to the North Wing/church area. I don't believe any other rooms are added between Easy and Hard, that I can recall. When you're all done playing, if you want a list of secrets, let me know and I'll e-mail them to you, but I wouldn't advise getting them ahead of time. It would spoil the fun of looking for them. Most of the loot is out in the open, but because it such a huge mansion, you just have to make sure you don't miss any little rooms or alcoves. Have fun on Hard and then try it on Expert. There are some added rooms, when you play on the hardest difficulty, that are quite interesting. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
gmcdorman on 10/1/2002 at 00:29
Thanks, Nightwalker. I just wanted a list so that I could check it occasionally to see if something I was looking at was new or if I just missed it the first time. I don't need to know where the secrets are since I did manage to get them all on Easy I should be able to tell which ones are new. I can't believe I missed an entire room with a DOOR!
gmcdorman on 11/1/2002 at 14:49
Has anyone developed a good strategy for clearing the North Wing Church on Hard? I've been at it for 30 minutes of real time and still haven't done it. I tried a number of things and got desperate, so I attempted to get into the rafters via ra. I fell into one of the outer "balconies" on the second floor and decided that was a good and lucky position. I took out the fires, hopped down, and took out the guy at the pulpit. I'm slowly sneaking up on the three remaining people (I called it quits because the sun came out). The whole process will porbably end up taking me 45-55 minutes of real time. That just seems way too long. Just wondering how everyone else did it.
Nightwalker on 11/1/2002 at 15:16
You can go in the upper doors or the lower doors and, if you're a good shot, take out the fires from behind the back pew. Then you can sneak all the way to front and also pick all the pockets without getting caught.
I did it this way when I was ghosting the mission and it worked very well. You do have to move slowly, though, as the floors are too noisy to move quickly. It didn't take me too long, though.
rshost.f9.co.uk on 11/1/2002 at 17:04
I entered via the lower doors, and used water arrows to shoot out the flames by the priest at the front. Then I went up to the balcony on the left by the front, then used a rope arrow to get into the rafters. I then shot a moss arrow onto the front inside of the wheel in the window (so that the centre moss patch fell inside, leaving three patches inside the wheel and two patches on the floor behind the priest - I prefer to be economical).<br />Using a rope arrow I climbed as low as I dared before my visibility gem got too bright, and then jumped onto the moss patch I'd created in the wheel. I had to jump through the light from the window, so it got a few comments about "does the boiler hiss?" or "didst that shadow move?", but I had landed in a shadow and just crouched until they all shut up again.
Once I'd got the elemental tablet, I crouched and sort of sidled up the inside of the wheel (there isn't room behind the priest to drop straight down) and landed to his right in a deep shadow, on the moss I'd shot earlier. I then worked my way slowly past all the people on the ground floor, picking pockets as I went. Once I'd got back to the exit, I went back up into the rafters again and retrieved the rope arrow I'd used to get into the wheel.
Result: 5-10 mins work, one moss arrow and two water arrows lost (all rope arrows used were retrieved again).
It did take me about three attempts to figure out the right spot to shoot to get into the rafters (too close to the wall and there isn't enough space above the rafter for me to climb up, but if I shoot too far into the room the rope falls past the edge of the balcony and I can't reach it)
However, I did that in Ghost, not in Hard. Maybe the AI positions are different on the other setting.
