Thief 4 vs. The Dark Mod - by Bulgarian_Taffer
New Horizon on 1/6/2009 at 19:16
Quote Posted by Bulgarian_Taffer
Uf... why? I love comparing games. I have not created this thread with intention to offend the Dark Mod developers or Eidos Montreal.
No no. Nobody is taking any offense to the thread. I just don't want it to devolve into an us vs. them kind of thing.
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I hope the Dark Mod will give me a possibility to create my own world - I mean, my own my character (the Thief) with his own personal story.
Absolutely. :) We have our universe outline in our wiki, but you can choose to create a character if you wish. Perhaps if the community really wants to have a single character that everyone can share, they can work on it together...and create a lead character for Dark Mod.
New Horizon on 1/6/2009 at 19:20
LOL
jay pettitt on 1/6/2009 at 19:29
Quote Posted by New Horizon
We have our universe outline in our wiki, but you can choose to create a character if you wish. Perhaps if the community really wants to have a single character that everyone can share, they can work on it together...and create a lead character for Dark Mod.
We could call him... *thinks* ...Gareth
Yandros on 1/6/2009 at 19:31
Quote Posted by New Horizon
We have our universe outline in our wiki, but you can choose to create a character if you wish. Perhaps if the community really wants to have a single character that everyone can share, they can work on it together...and create a lead character for Dark Mod.
This would be fantastic, but even more, I hope those in the community who excel at writing fan fiction will consider taking up the task of starting to set stories in the TDM universe. Consider that you have an outlined by much undefined universe, a blank slate if you will, to establish characters, storylines, history... and to create a literary base for TDM FM authors to use in missions for years to come.
Wormrat on 1/6/2009 at 19:32
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One thing I've learned working on TDM for (nearly) five years is that the difference between amateurs and professionals (relative to game design) is not as significant as people tend to think.
Agreed. And, I find it especially strange for that attitude to be present in this particular community. If you don't think some of the FMs have surpassed the original missions, I'd say you haven't played very many.
EDIT: At least
some of the OMs, I should say. I could understand if someone thinks the best OM is still better than the best FM.
Quote Posted by Bulgarian_Taffer
The Dark Mod won't be Thief.
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Thief 4 is different. It is supposed to be a true Thief game, with the same factions, the same protagonist, the same setting.
I also find it very strange that what makes a "true" Thief game should be determined by anything other than how it plays. The Dark Mod is nailing the mechanics so far.
Yandros on 1/6/2009 at 19:35
Quote Posted by Wormrat
I find it especially strange for that attitude to be present in this particular community. If you don't think some of the FMs have surpassed the original missions, I'd say you haven't played very many.
I think what he meant was more along the lines of "what the TDM team has had to do to produce the mod isn't as different from what professional game devs have to do". I'd tend to agree except for the lack of a hard and fast time constraint (plus of course the de facto lack of any pay to amateurs).
Quote Posted by Wormrat
I also find it very strange that what makes a "true" Thief game should be determined by anything other than how it plays. The Dark Mod is nailing the mechanics so far.
I agree, but again I think you misunderstood. I think he meant an "official" Thief game taking place in the Thief universe.
infinity on 1/6/2009 at 19:37
Nevermind. I think its true though the some FMs are greater than the original game.
pavlovscat on 1/6/2009 at 19:41
Quote Posted by New Horizon
I would prefer if a T4 vs. TDM thread did not exist, to be perfectly honest. The two are going to be very different.
I agree. My
personal opinion is that I don't care for the divisive X vs. Y mentality that some people have (this thread & oldtaffers vs. newtaffers). Why does it have to be X vs. Y? There is certainly plenty of room for all of us. We are all fans of stealth gaming. Why does different automatically mean bad? I believe that more options can only expand the life of Thief. It will be some time before we will know whether T4 turns out to be a total bust or better beyond belief. In the meantime, we still have the previous 3 Thief games with all their FMS & TDM to keep us going.
Bulgarian_Taffer on 1/6/2009 at 19:44
When did I say that the others are bad?
