Thief Campaigns - Master List

jiansonz on 16/10/2012 at 23:10

A Love Story II is a 2-mission release. Or you could say it's more like a prologue and then the actual mission, but the prologue is certainly playable, so it fits your criteria.

jtr7 on 16/10/2012 at 23:55

Thanks, Mike! :cool:

intruder on 17/10/2012 at 08:06

This list is a brilliant idea, Brethren!

What do you think about removing the "rule" that campaigns have to be shipped in one archive? For example, there is a 7-mission campaign by Belboz "Trickster’s Gem Mine" which is listed 3 times in your list (but the 1st mission is missing: Errand Boy).

There is another 5-missions campaign where each mission was released as a single FM:
City Conflict by Silencium18

(http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/FM:T2_City_Conflict_1_-_Silencium18) Part 1 - (http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/FM:T2_City_Conflict_2_-_Silencium18) Part 2 - (http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/FM:T2_City_Conflict_3_-_Silencium18) Part 3 - (http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/FM:T2_City_Conflict_4_-_Silencium18) Part 4 - (http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/FM:T2_City_Conflict_5_-_Silencium18) Part 5

Likewise, "Disorientation" and "Bad Debts" (both by Melan) could be counted as a mini-series.

demagogue on 17/10/2012 at 12:05

Cool list. Intruder just pre-empted my comment that Trickster's Gem Mine really ought to be a 7 mission campaign.

I'm also doubtful about the "must be bundled together" requirement. I mean a series by any other name is still a series. It's making too much out of bundling (cf. Father Hirkavia), and too little out of legit sequels IMO (cf. Trickster's Gem Mine & Rocksbourg). But especially if this is getting stickied as an important list, you should be comprehensive about it I think.

Searching Thiefmissions for "(http://thiefmissions.com/search.cgi?search=part&sort=title#m) Part" brings up some more.

Ones possibly campaign enough to be included:
Nicked's From Beneath the Sands & Whispers in the Desert is a kind of 2-fer.
DrK's Rocksbourg series is 3 missions.
Wille's Mystic Gems (2)
Slugg's Bestest FMs (4) (maybe?)
John Denison's Love Story (ah you have this, but it's 4 FMs)
Gaetane's L'Arscene series.
Cosas Gathering at the Inn & Mission X ought to count (2)
Timon's Forgotten Forest (2)
Wizard's Library (2)
John D's Island of Iron (2)
Kill Factory Sliptip (2)
Will the Taffer/Yandros Deceptive Perception (2)

Renault on 17/10/2012 at 14:04

The basic idea when coming up with the "bundled" restriction was the fact that the campaign was 100% complete. I was trying to come up with a list of missions where the player can download one file and play a completed story with a beginning and a definitive ending. The list has strayed from that in a few spots, so maybe we should consider adding some of the stuff you guys mentioned.

Or maybe just add a sub section which lists "Campaigns in progress" or something like that.

I was really trying to avoid series where there are several chapters or parts but the story isn't continuous/ongoing or even related. Stuff like Kill Factory and Deceptive Perception aren't really campaigns in my eyes, they are series in name only. On the other hand, stuff like Rocksbourg and Mystic Gems would definitely fall into the category of "campaigns in progress."

Tannar on 17/10/2012 at 17:03

I think a "campaigns in progress" subtopic is a good idea. But I really don't think TTGM falls into that category. Afaik, it's complete. Right?

intruder on 17/10/2012 at 17:24

Quote Posted by Tannar

TTGM is complete. Right?

I don't think that it has been completed yet. According to (http://www.daboys.co.uk/pages/modpicture.html) his website at least 4 other missions were planned.

Quote Posted by Tannar

I think a "campaigns in progress" subtopic is a good idea

Instead of using separate lists for complete campaigns, WIP campaigns, etc., one could use a simple "flag" to indicate the status of each series.
What I am thinking of right now is somehow similar to kamyk's (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106781) Fan mission listing by type. A possible scheme could look like this:

[Thief Version] - [Name] - [# of missions] - [Author] - [One package or not] - [download|list of downloads if no single package is available] - [Screenshots]

For example:

T2---Trickster’s Gem Mine---7---Belboz---4 Bundles---Download Part1, Part 2&3, Part 4&5, Part 6&7---Links to Screenshots

Tannar on 17/10/2012 at 17:35

Ah, thanks for the info, Steffen. I don't know why I thought it was complete. So just ignore my earlier comment, Brethren.

I like the idea of your list rather than a subforum but perhaps in that case an additional entry that said "in progress" or something like that would be a good idea. Of course, this is Brethren's list and he can do with it what he wants. :cheeky:

intruder on 17/10/2012 at 17:39

Yes, the "in progress" flag is a very good idea. If we are going to change the structure of the list, I would volunteer to collect the required information if that would be of any help.

Yandros on 17/10/2012 at 17:49

Great idea, Mike. And I completely agree with you that DP and DP2 do not constitute a campaign, and still wouldn't even if they were bundled in the same ZIP file.