ZylonBane on 20/7/2008 at 15:27
Quote Posted by Kin
If thief DS used doom 3 engine then dark mod would be a reality right now with another name.
No, it wouldn't. It still would have been saddled with all the same poor design decisions.
Kin on 20/7/2008 at 15:32
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
No, it wouldn't. It still would have been saddled with all the same poor design decisions.
Maybe this is true.
Goldmoon Dawn on 20/7/2008 at 17:45
He ain't lyin'!
:cheeky:
New Horizon on 20/7/2008 at 21:47
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
No, it wouldn't. It still would have been saddled with all the same poor design decisions.
Some of them....although I'm sure the level sizes would have been bigger since they wouldn't have had all of the baggage they had with the flesh engine. They just would have been starting from a better base.
ZylonBane on 20/7/2008 at 23:10
That's pretty much it. We'd still have loot glint, atomic frob, Special Loot, blue dark, blindness-curing blackjacks, body awareness, that obnoxious HUD, and all the other little problems caused by having less-than-stellar programmers on the job.
Andarthiel on 21/7/2008 at 00:30
Well i hate to say but I played T2 and T1 before TDS and I still love TDS even with it's flaws.With a few mods it becomes enjoyable, I must have passed it six times now and haven't got sick of it. I love all the Thief games equally. I actually thought the rope arrows were slightly frustrating at times and the climbing gloves could be fun in certain areas of the game like when evading guards.
New Horizon on 21/7/2008 at 02:58
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
That's pretty much it. We'd still have loot glint, atomic frob, Special Loot, blue dark, blindness-curing blackjacks, body awareness, that obnoxious HUD, and all the other little problems caused by having less-than-stellar programmers on the job.
Yet, if based on an id engine, it likely would have had more of a chance at being modded.
TheGrimSmile on 21/7/2008 at 14:19
Quote Posted by ToolFan2007
I don't like this comment which goes like; "good game on it's own if you haven't played the original two games".
I have played the original two games. Almost immediately after they came out.
What was it that you didn't like? Yeah, the levels are smaller. Yeah, there are more changes. Yes, Ion Storm could have done a much better job of the bug fixing. But there are some new features in this game which expand the series even more.
And the storyline is on par with the original games, IMO even more so. What is so bad about it? Were you expecting Thief 2.5?
You're right, perhaps I should've said something different.
What I mean to say is that, to me, TDS was hard to fit into the Thief series. It's not so much that it was giving less than the last two games, but that it was so different. Maybe it was too much of a change for me.
It could be that I was expecting something that was close to the first two games, which was a bit foolish on my part, due to how much everything in gaming has improved. Of course TDS would want to take advantage of this! But it serves to drag it away from the first two games, which I think could've been avoided somewhat.
Maybe I was expecting Thief 2.5. I mean, TDS is a really great game, with a lot of great features. But I'd sometimes rather they kept some of the old features, rather than taking out some of the stuff that really made the first two games for me. I also think there were some good ideas that could be really great with just a tad bit more of work.
Had I played TDS before the first two games, I might have felt the same way about the first two games.
Garrett's Landlord on 22/7/2008 at 21:07
I played T3 before I even heard of T1&T2. Having always played games on console systems I didn't know what to expect. Being the first game I ever bought for the PC I was amazed at the graphics & play. It was only later on in the game where stuck & looking for a clue that I discovered TTLG,T1,T2,FM's and the thief community. Since then I have managed to buy used copies of T1&T2 and have played hundreds of FM's (including T3). "ALL" the games are great fun to play & it,s not right to dismiss T3 just for being different.
RavynousHunter on 23/7/2008 at 01:06
Noticed a strange coincidence today whilst installing T: DS on my bro's machine, in disk 2, data3.cab is exactly 666,000 kilobytes, anyone else notice this? :cheeky:
