MayheM on 16/6/2023 at 00:15
Congratulations! I can tell it's going to be a great mission from the looks of it.
nicked on 16/6/2023 at 05:14
Quote Posted by Marbrien
Same here. Found the door, took the pebble, have no idea what the plaque means. Redeemed the pebble in the cave and lots of baby krays appeared, even though one egg remains untouched, perhaps because I used one pebble on the egg at the bottom of the lake.
Then you're missing a pebble. Including the secret there are 16 in total.
Marbrien on 16/6/2023 at 09:54
Will finding and using that last pebble lead to a key to the code in the secret area?
I ask because I've been all over this map quite a few times now (I'm only 20 short of maximum loot). Some people have said they found all the pebbles but haven't posted a list.
Sagittal on 16/6/2023 at 10:27
I thought I had just finished this great mission equipped now with my assault weapon but I see there may be more to do (code in a secret area ??) [ Edit - nicked's reply suggests there is not a code or it's not important ] I already feel I have covered the whole map :wot: - the mission that keeps giving :cool:
Lots of different areas to explore and routes to navigate and certainly enjoyed trying out the new power ups.
I picked up on most of the in game clues on placing the red skull and then searching but I certainly wouldn't have found the Easter Egg without further clues here in the thread. Some positive confirmation of successfully placing the skull - and maybe a better indication of what may have then changed would have encouraged me to go on wothout having to come back to the thread.
I am glad I persisted as I had a great time playing but I may take a break before going back to find further loot !
Thanks again nicked :thumb:
Sagittal on 16/6/2023 at 10:33
For those still looking for pebbles here is my list:
1. Behind metal cases below rail track in rock crushing area
2. On Father Terrance’s tomb in multiple tomb area, with name plaques, level immediately under church
3. At base of last tomb, in straight row of 5 tombs, in the same multiple tomb area as 2.
4. In wall niche in room with wooden floor in tomb area , level immediately under church
5. In broken floor tile in church
6. Below high west window in church
7. Under large table in galleried hall of abandoned buildings around courtyard with big hollow tree
8. On floor of shed, NE corner of courtyard with big hollow tree
9. In corner of basement room of building immediately south of hollow tree
10. End of roof gulley and entrance to caves above abandoned buildings and below sentry Haunt
11. In side cave with wooden crates on left half way up railway track from courtyard with hollow tree
12. On ground behind railings in mine overlooking central shaft high above rock crushing area
13. On ground by crate & barrel under lantern at short dead end in mine – same level as 11?
14. Under wooden stairs in mine leading to Upper Levels
15. On floor of prison cell with metal door and zombie
nicked on 16/6/2023 at 12:48
What code? This is all just a very silly Easter Egg btw, it's nothing important for the mission.
Marbrien on 16/6/2023 at 13:39
The code to what the plaque says in the east ruins secret area. And if it is meaningless, how is the player supposed to know that?
Marbrien on 16/6/2023 at 13:40
Quote Posted by Sagittal
For those still looking for pebbles here is my list:
1. Behind metal cases below rail track in rock crushing area
2. On Father Terrance's tomb in multiple tomb area, with name plaques, level immediately under church
3. At base of last tomb, in straight row of 5 tombs, in the same multiple tomb area as 2.
4. In wall niche in room with wooden floor in tomb area , level immediately under church
5. In broken floor tile in church
6. Below high west window in church
7. Under large table in galleried hall of abandoned buildings around courtyard with big hollow tree
8. On floor of shed, NE corner of courtyard with big hollow tree
9. In corner of basement room of building immediately south of hollow tree
10. End of roof gulley and entrance to caves above abandoned buildings and below sentry Haunt
11. In side cave with wooden crates on left half way up railway track from courtyard with hollow tree
12. On ground behind railings in mine overlooking central shaft high above rock crushing area
13. On ground by crate & barrel under lantern at short dead end in mine - same level as 11?
14. Under wooden stairs in mine leading to Upper Levels
15. On floor of prison cell with metal door and zombie 16. In the secret area in the east ruins. Clues as to how to access it and where it is are in posts above.
Marbrien on 18/6/2023 at 10:20
Thanks for this excellent mission Nicked.
I see it as a mission in two parts, a little like an iceberg. There’s the main path, the things that are evident at the start, with the explicit objective to find the hand. As others have said, this is excellently done – the mapping, the innovations, the placement of hostiles, the readables and story.
Then there are the hidden extras, things below the waterline. The shiny pebbles, the red skull, the tomb of Brother Jeff, talking plaques - there may be other features I have missed.
My quibble here is that if the player gets drawn into pursuing these hidden extras, and they are fascinating, they have absolutely no help in game. This can be frustrating, and means having to resort to this forum to progress. The player can eventually end up with extra weaponry, and one extra weapon in particular, but quite probably too late in the mission as regards the main path to put them to much use.
Were I to suggest an improvement, it would be to bring these hidden extras more into the main path of the game. Make them triggerable optional objectives, add some tips in game as to where things are located, perhaps weave them into the story a little more. I think that would take this already excellent level up another level. :cool: