Thief I/II & System Shock 2 Resource Browser - Beta Now Downloadable

Ulukai on 9/2/2009 at 15:44

I take it you mean 3D object viewer? Anyone know where I can find more technical info regarding formats before I go scraping the bottom out of Google?

ZylonBane on 9/2/2009 at 15:56

Quote Posted by Ulukai

I take it you mean 3D object viewer? Anyone know where I can find more technical info regarding formats before I go scraping the bottom out of Google?

Just build in an option to automatically launch the LGS object viewer. It's driven by command-line parameters, so it should be pretty easy.

As far as other features, I'm sure authors would appreciate some palette-auditing functions. For example:

* Automatically warn if any textures in a family aren't using the family palette.
* Scan the object folder and report how many unique palettes exist.

That sort of thing.

Volca on 9/2/2009 at 16:45

Quote Posted by Ulukai

I take it you mean 3D object viewer? Anyone know where I can find more technical info regarding formats before I go scraping the bottom out of Google?

Or if you'd prefer to implement it on your own, I can give you a few pointers (.BIN file loader source code I implemented for opde is (http://opde.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/opde/trunk/src/base/loaders/ManualBinFileLoader.cpp?view=markup) here, thanks go to Shadowspawn again for helping out :) )

Ulukai on 9/2/2009 at 21:35

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I propose to get it to a stable state, release a version so you get the feel for it, then tinker with object browser functionality.

I've set up a website for the project (http://www.improperargument.com/ClockworkTelescope/) here.

sNeaksieGarrett on 9/2/2009 at 22:27

Cool. So it's not just for thief...

potterr on 10/3/2009 at 19:07

Something I did recently with (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125417) GarrettLoader (beta 1.4194) is a similar thing although more focused on FM Zip resources (under TOOLS > FAN MISSION DEVELOPMENT TOOLS > RESOURCE MANAGER). It was designed to make it easy for you to rip out skins, textures and graphics from FM zip files.

(http://potterdevelopments.org.uk/fm/GL_ResourceManager.jpg)

Inline Image:

http://potterdevelopments.org.uk/fm/tn_GL_ResourceManager.jpg (click to enlarge)

It basically made a database of all files found under certain categories (which you could also tweak), meaning when you make an FM you can easily grab skins and textures from other FMs. It needs some more work as it only lets you view stuff at the moment.

What I was also developing was a 3D object viewer part to the tool as well (in Visual Basic)
(http://potterdevelopments.org.uk/fm/GL_3D.jpg)

Inline Image:

http://potterdevelopments.org.uk/fm/tn_GL_3D.jpg (click to enlarge)
Although this is in early stages, but I managed to get it to take out bin files from the thief FMs, convert to 3Ds using Nameless Voice's tools and display in wireframe format. I was also working on a Direct X version of it so that you can see the skins as well although that is really buggy at the moment.

Ulukai, if you want to look at having your program as a plugin / tool in GL as well drop me a PM and I'll add some code in to hook it in, and may be able to provide something that will give you details of FMs in GLs database that you may also be able to use.

sNeaksieGarrett on 10/3/2009 at 19:21

Wow potterr, you sure are doing a lot with GarrettLoader!:wot::cool:

clearing on 11/3/2009 at 05:41

:eek: Good job!

Wille on 11/3/2009 at 08:49

Another very useful feature would be a schema viewer/player. You can listen to different schemas in DromEd but that's very slow. Schema player could look just like the (http://www.improperargument.com/ClockworkTelescope/images/SoundPreview.jpg) wav player you already have :).

bikerdude on 11/3/2009 at 16:01

Afternoon Ulukai

how are you getting along with this as the download link isnt active..