New Horizon on 24/2/2006 at 22:47
Egads, the physics were pretty bad in T3. The devs themselves said that they barely got them working. I wouldn't even want to hear tell of a Thief 4 in the Flesh engine unless it received a good overhaul. Best thing a company could do right now, is build a Thief 4 in the Doom 3 engine. It's got that thief style in spades.
ToolFan2007 on 25/2/2006 at 10:34
Quote Posted by New Horizon
Egads, the physics were pretty bad in T3
Just because they didn't use Havok like every other game out there. :rolleyes:
New Horizon on 25/2/2006 at 14:12
Quote Posted by ToolFan2007
Just because they didn't use Havok like every other game out there. :rolleyes:
Watchoo talkin' bout Willis? They used Havok, but said they had a horrible time getting it to work in the flesh engine.
Gingerbread Man on 25/2/2006 at 21:12
I don't think it had anything to do with the engine... I suspect it had to do with the horrible rigging of the models.
T-Smith on 26/2/2006 at 00:26
Quote Posted by Gingerbread Man
I don't think it had anything to do with the engine... I suspect it had to do with the horrible rigging of the models.
Rigging on the models? Would they be why they'd keep forming backwards bridges with their bodies, snapping their spines in half, whenever I blackjacked them :p?
New Horizon on 26/2/2006 at 00:41
Quote Posted by Gingerbread Man
I don't think it had anything to do with the engine... I suspect it had to do with the horrible rigging of the models.
Yeah, probably another reason for it.
Quote Posted by T-Smith
Rigging on the models? Would they be why they'd keep forming backwards bridges with their bodies, snapping their spines in half, whenever I blackjacked them ?
If we can gain access to that part of the model, perhaps we could somehow fix it by fusing their spines. LOL
Aja on 26/2/2006 at 01:00
If the blackjack animations could somehow be fixed, it would go a long way towards making T3 more fun. As it is, it's unsatisfying to blackjack someone when they don't fall properly.
Rogue Keeper on 27/2/2006 at 09:19
Good physics or bad physics, if there was no HalfLife 2, I guess people would be in extasy from it. I'd say it's ... satisfying. EXCEPT that clumsy ragdoll effect.
I realized I am quite allergic to sensitive physics, for example, in FEAR I was annoyed everytime I just slightly bumped into a small can or crate on the ground, it flied like two metres away, making such a racket. Would anyone want to make noise in Thief 3 anytime by just randomly bumping into a pot on the ground? Dunno.
Yes, I guess there is some point of realism beyond which it starts to negatively affect gameplay of a given genre...
ZylonBane on 27/2/2006 at 14:31
Quote Posted by BR796164
Good physics or bad physics, if there was no HalfLife 2, I guess people would be in extasy from it.
That is definitely the worst misspelling of "Thief 2" I've ever seen.
Rogue Keeper on 27/2/2006 at 14:40
Possibly. But you cry too much. :erg:
