Ominous cowl on 9/6/2005 at 19:10
Quote Posted by Keeper Mallinson
but getting the zombies right would be so diffficult.
No, that's moderate. Just look at these two guys:
Inline Image:
http://www.shadowmillproductions.com/images/fulci_children_thumb.jpgOK, we should make Thief-like zombies. Here are my proposals:
1. Bleach the face.
2. Cover the body in grey dust.
3. Mount some pieces of artificial brain on the head.
4. Mount some pieces of artificial guts before the stomach.
5. Apply a blue area to the waist (bluescreen effect). In the postprocessing, some effects can be added here.
6. Apply some artificial injuries to the legs (transparent films).
7. Apply some red sparks in the mouth area.
8. Since it should be a Thief zombie, he must be slimy-wet. Pour wet mud over the actor.
Dang, I forgot the most important point:
9. Darken the borders of the eyes, especially beneath them.
godismygoldfish on 9/6/2005 at 22:55
Well, i've since cancelled my thief film, :( will be posting a post-mortem on it along with the trailer (was to be a full length film in the style of rustmonkey cutscenes)
So i must wish you guys the best of luck, i hope you can nail the thief atmosphere on the head!
(though some screens would be nice ;) )
SLight preview of what i was doing (
http://www.evilarmyfilms.com/atp) here.
Harpalus on 9/6/2005 at 23:49
Quote Posted by DarthMRN
And just for the record, Japanese steel, If correctly crafted, could withstand quite a lot before breaking. The europeans hardly used the same crafting methods, but the point is, steel
can endure a fair punishment.
There's a fanboy comment if ever I heard one. Japan never had much steel. Therefore the swords they made were both expensive and well made, not to mention relatively rare. Metal armour was equally rare, due to the same general lack of metal. Katanas were mostly used against unarmoured to lightly armoured opponents, and rarer still in actual sword fighting.
The Europeans, on the other hand, had plenty of steel. They had both cheap and expensive swords. (This is where fanboys run around saying that Katanas are superior -- they only ever compare the cheap European swords to the expensive Katanas) They also had lots of metal armour. Now, who do YOU think designed and made their weapons to withstand steel better?
Cancelled? What a pity. I can't seem to view the teaser trailer, though. Or have you not uploaded it yet? It looked promising though, for the record.
DarthMRN on 10/6/2005 at 23:20
Quote Posted by Harpalus
There's a fanboy comment if ever I heard one. Japan never had much steel. Therefore the swords they made were both expensive and well made, not to mention relatively rare. Metal armour was equally rare, due to the same general lack of metal. Katanas were mostly used against unarmoured to lightly armoured opponents, and rarer still in actual sword fighting.
The Europeans, on the other hand, had plenty of steel. They had both cheap and expensive swords. (This is where fanboys run around saying that Katanas are superior -- they only ever compare the cheap European swords to the expensive Katanas) They also had lots of metal armour. Now, who do YOU think designed and made their weapons to withstand steel better?
You should be careful about fanboy accusations...
I have stated nowhere that the Japanese had much steel, and I know the real deal was rare. Why else would they put such craftmanship and endurance in it? I am also aware of the armour thing. I have stated nothing along the lines of armour anyway. And there were plenty of duels with actual swords. Wooden ones were used for training. Any actual soldier had a steel sword.
About the europeans I cannot say for sure, but I do know the imported japanese swords were considered the among the best by the europeans that received them. The reason 'fanboys' consider Katanas (how I hate that word) superior is because they arguably belong to the best sword combat style the world has seen.
Katanas are crafted by having from 2 to 5 layers of steel on top of each other, each of different properties. Generally, the core is of a softer steel layer that allows the blade to flex and absorbs most of the impact. The outer layers are much harder, providing protection and allowing for its famous razor-sharp edge. The blade is composed of many thousands of ultra-thin steel layers folded on top of each other. A painstaking way of construction. If the european blades were ever stronger, then those must have been thick and heavy two-handed swords.
You should not mistake 20th century blades with the real thing.
And please don't use the word Katana when adressing me. That word is as much western novadays as it is Japanese. Say Nihon-To, or preferrably, be specific about the kind of blade you are referring to. I mean, if you are so extremely knowledgable.
iGnotuS on 11/6/2005 at 16:36
DarthMRN, nice defending post over there :)
godismygoldfish, where's the trailer?! Upload it!
Ominous cowl on 11/6/2005 at 16:45
Yes! Did you pour some mud over the zombie actors as well?
Fingernail on 11/6/2005 at 16:45
Quote Posted by iGnotuS
godismygoldfish, where's the trailer?! Upload it!
He has to wait for me to finish some music for it.
Ominous cowl on 11/6/2005 at 16:49
Quote Posted by Fingernail
He has to wait for me to finish some music for it.
That's always a difficult task, especially when it comes to the point of creating a certain atmosphere. Perhaps you can find some inspiration over here:
(
http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=sounds.List)
edit: fixed url.
Harpalus on 11/6/2005 at 18:31
I never claimed to know a ton about swords, but I DO know that quality European swords can take more punishment then Japanese swords in swordfighting. Your earlier post clearly indicated this. Besides, the word "Katana" has come to mean all swords in common usage in Japan recently.
DarthMRN on 12/6/2005 at 03:25
That is very much true. Katana basically means Japanese sword. But it is far to much used in the West today for me to like the word. But that is a personal thing.
About the endurance thing I am not confident enough in my knowledge of european craftmanship to say anything for certain. But to my knowledge, the good Japanese blades were very endurant. More so than european ones of similar size. I'll have to look into it, though.
