Thief Reloaded Contest FM: The Revenge of Lt Hagen by FireMage (05 Feb 2011) - by Sagittal
gnartsch on 7/2/2011 at 20:38
@Garrett's Shadow: I think FireMage had to do it this way because he wanted you to pick up the bow first.
Not sure, but I think the default behaviour in Thief would be that you get the bow automatically as soon as you have/pick up an arrow.
@WinterCat
Regaring the rogues, check FireMages last post for [spoiler]Sammy[/spoiler]. Hope you have more luck then me.
FireMage, sorry to say so, but I have been across the entire map multiple times, but still Sammy does not show up anywhere for me - and yes: Melinda is dead for sure already.
I will quit this mission for now and retry next week from scratch.
Or would someone have a savegame right when Sammy appears ?
However, this is a good mission !
Thanks !
Sagittal on 7/2/2011 at 20:56
Quote Posted by Winter Cat
I stuck. Having killed Logan, Alonso, Bogdan and Melinda, I can't find other rogues. What does interrogation room button do?
Also, how do you get into the abandoned house? I had to
shoot fire arrow at the table under which the blue journal lies, so explosion throws it to the blocked by wooden bars window and I can get it. I wondered about that button but couldn't find anything.
For another rogue try
searching down in the undrground pool area for Zelir. Things should hopefully move from there. Sammy will
give you useful information for the house a little later. Not too sure if
Zelir is essential before Sammy but that's the order I did it.
@gnartsch: I struggled to find Sammy for a while after killing
Alonso, Bogdan, Logan, Zelir and Melinda but I ditched Melinda and Bogdan (I think) in the canal to be sure they were dead and Sammy seemed to appear immediately afterwards? Might be worth a try.
Garrett's Shadow on 7/2/2011 at 21:06
I may have broken my run of it then - being a good taffer I could'nt pass up the abandoned house on my way to the big square and when 2 mins of whacking away at the boards with my sword did'nt work I just let fly one fire arrow into the boards and then busted in the window with my bj! :p
hope that did'nt mess me all up! :wot:
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This is startin to annoy me - i killed Melinda in the front part of Shoalsgate - the No Entry door DID'NT
open - I reloaded a save before killing Logan in the metal room - killed him again but Melinda went invis and locked me out of Shoalsgate and is just hanging around on the other side of the closed gate!- what the hell am I doing wrong? :mad:
gnartsch on 7/2/2011 at 21:50
I can see him !!!
Finallly !!!!
Zelir, that stupid taffer was not as dead as I thought he should be !!!
Now Sammy does show up alright!
Thanks, Saggital !
Garrett's Shadow on 7/2/2011 at 21:58
No matter how or where I kill Logan I can't get Melinda to go where all these posts say she is supposed to go!
(which I am not even sure is exactly where?)
and I have killed Melinda in 3 places now - she never went into any dungeon and the No Entry door never unlocked - I think I will have to pass on finishing this one if no one can give me any definitive method for achieving what's necessary!
gnartsch on 7/2/2011 at 22:18
Quote Posted by Garrett's Shadow
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and I have killed Melinda in 3 places now - she never went into any dungeon and the No Entry door never unlocked - I think I will have to pass on finishing this one if no one can give me any definitive method for achieving what's necessary!
You might have to open a gate or two for her if she gets stuck.
Also, avoid being spotted by her and follow in safe distance.
Garrett's Shadow on 7/2/2011 at 22:31
I tried again. This is what i did and how things stand now:
I followed Logan into metal room, after he left I used 3 moss arrows, 2 on the ground in the room
going from the raised hatch area to where he comes in and stands with his back to me, and one on the raised area itself.
(I did this so that i could get in the much quieter one hit kill becuase it seems it was the noise of the fight that alerted her all the other times!)
Then I used the lever that makes him come back in and RAN over and hopped up onto raised area, he did, I crept down, one hit, quiet kill !
Then I crept out and took a zoom look (nice that Hagan must also have a special eye like Garrett, musta had a run in with Constatine too I guess!) at Shoalsgate.
Yup, I see her! Visable and like you just said, wlaking in place due to a closed metal door!
Now I hope I can shepherd her correctly!
Looks like I did it!!!
(and that makes me wonder at all those who posted that they could get thru the No Entry door when they killed her BEFORE SHE FREAKIN UNLOCKS IT AND GOES DOWN!!!)
Garrett's Shadow on 7/2/2011 at 23:49
and Zelir is NOT in that underground pool area - i am very sorry Firemage - but yur mission is very messy! :tsktsk:
i really think it needed a good dusting with a beta duster b4 release! :p
Sagittal on 8/2/2011 at 00:07
Quote Posted by Garrett's Shadow
and Zelir is NOT in that underground pool area - i am very sorry Firemage - but yur mission is very messy! :tsktsk:
i really think it needed a good dusting with a beta duster b4 release! :p
Hey, don't be so quick to take your frustrations out on the author - that's unfair!
When I posted Zelir was in the underground pool area I didn't mean he was standing there in plain view for anyone to see - just that that's the area to go to to find him. You just need to dust-off your searching skills to find a
pretty standard Thief switching object ;)
Garrett's Shadow on 8/2/2011 at 00:20
yes - I think I hear him - srry but I am tired and cranky atm!
but if you read thru all these posts - pretty much everyone has had probs!
I don't feel I was being mean - I did say it was a very interesting story - I just think the execution coulda used some checking out via beta and mebbe some spot fixes? ;)
( heck, just puttin two boxes together and having a haunt rattle his chains and go "BOO" is more than I can do
with the camel we all know (and love?) as Dromed(ary) )! :laff:
