The Shroud on 15/11/2009 at 04:03
In short, Stephen Russell's voice is quite feasible. ;)
jtr7 on 15/11/2009 at 04:40
"Looping" or "Automated dialogue replacement (ADR) Looping" is done in the great majority of movies. It's also often a reason why some actors sound funny or like they are speaking their lines bored or reading from a card. Harrison Ford and Jamie Gertz come to mind. The big obvious problem is that they are in a voice-booth trying to recreate the emotion of one of many takes the director/editor chose per shot, sometimes months after they performed the scenes.
The Shroud on 15/11/2009 at 08:15
Good thing Russell will have plenty of voice-overs that don't involve lip-syncing (i.e. the mission briefings dialogue). ;)
Beattie on 15/11/2009 at 12:22
yeh im very aware of the dubbing, in fact heaps of lord of the rings was dubbed over because they shot near an airport but dubbing over one actor with another actors voice wouldnt mach up. Stephen Russell is by far the best voice for Garrett but imo you have to let go of that.
NathanGPLC on 15/11/2009 at 14:32
Actually, dubbing over one actor with another isn't much more difficult. Like I said, Wil W. voiced a bunch of different actors in Star Trek, and the original Darth Vader was dubbed by another actor. Even in a close-up, it is pretty much the same 'looping' process jtr7 mentioned.
I'm teaching a Film as Literature class, so I'm geeking out about the Thief screenplay--I don't mean to be contentious, just trying to be informative with the little knowledge I have.
Not that I'm saying it will be easy or possible to get Russell to do it; I'm just saying the technique and technology aren't the problems.
Beattie on 16/11/2009 at 03:40
I'm not saying that it would be hard or difficult to do, all of you seem to think that's what I'm saying. what I'm saying is that it would not work well no matter how technically good its done. Darth Vader wears a mask and I'm sure the dubbed characters in star trek were not the protagonist. could u imagine, a well known actor on screen for 2 hours with someone elses voice. its death on screen.
Echelon5 on 16/11/2009 at 13:33
We (and by that I mean I) demand more screenplay to read! Look inside your heart, you know it to be true.
Scots Taffer on 25/11/2009 at 02:33
(This thread was linked from GenGaming)
Shroud, you've done some good work on this screenplay (from what I've seen) and I commend your fanaticism to the Thief games with what you've done here. While I'm extremely sceptical this project could ever get off the ground, it's still a good technical exercise to get yourself writing and I'd push you to try your own material once you finish with this.
The only real criticism I would offer is the inclusion of references to game cutscenes and musical cues, these are really not relevant at all and make it seem more like a fanfic script than an actual attempt to adapt the work meaningfully for an audience. That said, I'm not sure if you ever intend on pitching your work to anyone outside the TTLG/Eidos world.
Another suggestion would be to not get lost in Thief lore and speak either, I mean, I'm all for taffers and burricks in a Thief movie, but it has to make sense and not just be a whole bunch of shoe-horned images and words unless it truly lends colour and depth to the world the characters are living in.
On a related note, I've tinkered with a few scripts myself (nothing finished yet) and one of them is a direct homage to the Thief games but I've removed all traces of the universe from it and instead rooted it in the real world with only a faintly similar mythology. Setting it in Italy, a country rich in history and grand architecture and fallen former culture, made it an easy transition for "The City". I hope one day to finish it.
Good luck.
Bakerman on 25/11/2009 at 06:35
Why have I only read this now?? Great work, Shroud! Your attention to detail is fantastic. From what you've posted here, it looks like you've put in just enough references that fans will recognise, while keeping in mind that you're writing a movie, not an in-joke (. :thumb:
One humble suggestion: I was actually playing through Bafford's just the other day, and the throne-room guard said that same line. My first reaction was 'huh, well that makes no sense at all', since he was standing right outside the throne-room, in the heart of the mansion. It would have been plausible coming out of the mouths of one of the cellar guards, but not one of the lucky few who are actually upstairs where the sir would live. Just a thought.
Curious: how do you envision the City? A more modern-fantasy sort of idea like Bree from LOTR or the grey-blue City in TDS? Or the more earth-toned, colourful city from TDP?
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could u imagine, a well known actor on screen for 2 hours with someone elses voice. its death on screen.
I'm going to guess not many people would necessarily want a well-known actor to play Garrett.
I'm also anxious to see some of Constantine's :). That level is probably my favourite, just for the sense of 'oh damn... what the... oh
damn... oh...' you get as you go further up and things get weirder and weirder.
Dominus on 25/11/2009 at 07:23
"glad to see Thief is still rockin' it. And nice work with the script -- a Thief film would be great."
- Daniel Thron
