The Magpie on 16/1/2008 at 18:28
Quote Posted by Beleg Cúthalion
...but this land is full of guys whose English (spelling) is a lot better. I cannot even find clear evidence that the sentences are influenced by German grammar.
Me neither, outside of the noun capitalization. And I agree, native Germans should be able to do better, unless they were Ossies who elected to learn Russian instead of English in school. Could well be something else. Not Nordic, the structure contains some foreign phrasings. Some Slavic language, maybe? Or maybe it really was Finnish? I feel the abbreviation of "number" to "nr." and not "no." is a clue here.
Quote Posted by Beleg Cúthalion
They only need a little polishing and everything would be fine. Still, this seems odd somehow. :erg:
More than a little polishing. Let's get a native English forum member with a sample of linguistic talent to proofread the text and count the errors and problems. They're plentiful.
And I'd call it downright suspicious, frankly.
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Beleg Cúthalion on 16/1/2008 at 20:13
I am an...Ossie. And "elect" sounds like they all wanted to learn Russian, what not only I did not (both want and learn), by the way. :p
And with "little" I just meant that I would not change the very content a lot, since it is basically a somehow good introduction to the whole series.
The Magpie on 16/1/2008 at 20:21
Noted, sorry for my little-informed understanding of DDR educational practices. No insult intended at all, Beleg.
And I agree that the content of the text itself is all fine and dandy. I'm just having trouble with the execution.
BTW, I dropped in an innocent line at the Eidos forums. We'll see if anything comes of that.
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Andarthiel on 16/1/2008 at 21:21
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Here's the blurb from the back of my Thief trilogy compilation,
which was imported from the UK.Steal as a master robber Garret in the dark project, the metal age and deadly shadows; the three parts in the serial Thief in this box!
Hide yourself behind objects, move on quietly, use strategy and survive tactivs to steal of the realms. Stealing by the shade you can slip along each guard, crack each lock and penetrate the best protect buildings. Do you have it in yourself to survive the treason, the assassins and the war in the maze of the streets?
You gotta love those protect buildings:laff:
Engrish always cracks me up.
ataricom on 16/1/2008 at 22:45
It actually sounds more Asian influenced, but the grammar isn't wrong, per se, just really awkward. I notice how none of the proper nouns (with the exception of Garrett and Thief) are capitalized. Although it might have been goofed with a computer translator, though. I'm trying to think of an explanation as to why the hell they would use both "robber" and "thief." Thief would be left alone (the title, duh), but I can't think of any languages offhand that would be predisposed to choose "robber" over "thief" in translation.
Kinda reminds me of reading things in STALKER, but more.....well just worse.
EvaUnit02 on 17/1/2008 at 03:07
Either way it's definitely a European release. There's PEGI rating icons on the cover. The cover also only lists the copyrights for Deadly Shadows and the licensed technologies used by it (EAX, Bink Video, Havok, etc.). Just like that Danish site, it lists "www.thief.com".
I should list the printed system requirements. They contain what looks to be the smoking gun.
Minimum system requirements: Pentium 1,5Ghz, 256 MB RAM, 3 GB free disc space, DirectX 9.0 compatible sound card, EAX advanced needs a Soundsblaster sound card, 4x cd-rom drive, Windows 2000/XP.
Compatible graphic chipsets: ATI Radeon 8500, ATI Radeon 9 serie (9000, 9200,9600,9800), NVIDIA GeForce 3TI serie, NVIDIA GeForce 4TI serie (mx wordt niet ondersteund), NVIDIA GeForce FX serie, NVIDIA GeForce 6 serie
Graphic Cards must be compatible with Pixel Shader 1.1
ataricom on 17/1/2008 at 03:43
That, my friend, is Dutch.
"Niet ondersteund" - Not Sustain/confirm.....higher than?
The Magpie on 17/1/2008 at 04:36
"Supported."
Heh.
Thank you very much for the information.
A funny product to toss out on the unsuspecting British market, don't you think?
One of the mods over at forums.eidosgames.com believed that Eidos didn't sell that product anymore, and pointed me to Amazon.com.
Are they not the publishers of the product and thereby responsible for its quality? That's what I'd like to know.
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Beleg Cúthalion on 17/1/2008 at 08:57
Quote Posted by The Magpie
Noted, sorry for my little-informed understanding of DDR educational practices. No insult intended at all, Beleg.
No problem, really. ;) Now we'll have to figure out why the dutch sell Thief compilations. "wordt niet ondersteund" could mean – I can only guess since I know Dutch only from multi-language hotel sings – "is not understood" (some passive form) or "word not understood", which could refer to some artificial translator, but that would mean that there was some original language in which "not supported" would be something incredibly difficult. Ah, forget it, I guess it just means "not supported" like you already found out...
The Magpie on 17/1/2008 at 13:39
Quote Posted by Beleg Cúthalion
Now we'll have to figure out why the Dutch sell Thief compilations.
Well, probably they share financial motivations with the Polish chaps putting out their Thief Antologia.
But:
* Is it
really an Eidos sanctioned re-launch?
* If it's not Eidos, why wouldn't these guys re-brand the product properly if they already bought the license?
* Why wouldn't these obviously Dutch people mimic the Poles and go all the way with a localized edition?
* And vice versa, if they
would market it abroad, why is the translation so amateurish?
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