voodoo47 on 14/1/2014 at 01:20
TDP unified 1.08 is up - relit the levels with NewDark, tweaked some more stuff, and added working candles. that means all lit candles, chandeliers and candlesticks now have a small burning flame (if a bit crude), can be doused with water/gas, and relit with fire properly (even lootable candlesticks, when you douse them or pick them up, the light source will get removed properly) - no more of that weird stuff when an unlit candle is emitting undousable light. thorough testing would be appreciated - if everything goes well, the working candles will be implemented in TFixed maps as well.
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http://i.imgur.com/GeHI5mU.jpg)
Inline Image:
http://i.imgur.com/GeHI5mUl.jpg[video=youtube;P9IdQDjSz5k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9IdQDjSz5k[/video]
//1.09 uploaded, fixed some very minor obj issues. //and 1.10 as well, bunch of textures fixed.
Xmodule999 on 5/3/2014 at 16:24
About Thief 2 Lost Alpha - I can't load savegames from original Thief 2 demo, why?
Queue on 5/3/2014 at 17:09
Don't know how I missed this the first time around, but--
These are wonderful, voodoo! Thank you so very much.
ZylonBane on 5/3/2014 at 19:56
Quote Posted by Xmodule999
About Thief 2 Lost Alpha - I can't load savegames from original Thief 2 demo, why?
Clearly you aren't satisfied with the very obvious and reasonable explanation that you can't load Unwelcome Guest savegames into Lost Alpha because
they're different missions, so logic dictates that you are looking for an
unreasonable explanation. Hopefully one of these will satisfy you:
* Why? Why not?
* To piss you off.
* Because you touch yourself.
* Because your original demo savegames are too tired and grouchy to load.
* Because your computer has insufficient feng shui.
* Because David Hasselhoff decrees it so.
* Because NewDark ships with dont_load_old_savegames_for_no_reason enabled by default.
* Because you saved with Garrett facing between 15 and 632 degrees.
* Because your Thief site license has expired.
* Because someone recorded over your savegame with the last episode of The Office.
* Because the end times are upon us.
* Because your GPU is out of pixel fluid.
* Because we're occupying one of the infinite parallel universes where quantum randomness prevented it.
* Because you didn't press the Turbo button.
* Because NewDark has judged you and in so judging found you unworthy in its sight.
* Because someone's hacking your gibson.
* Because youth culture, wizards, and a large ball of twine.
* Just because, okay!?
Xmodule999 on 5/3/2014 at 20:12
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
Clearly you aren't satisfied with the very obvious and reasonable explanation that you can't load Unwelcome Guest savegames into Lost Alpha because
they're different missions, so logic dictates that you are looking for an
unreasonable explanation.
These are the same missions.
Xmodule999 on 5/3/2014 at 21:00
The difference between T1 1.37 and NewDark (also) is too damn high. But loading T1 1.37 savegames in Thief 2 (1) 1.21 is possible.
voodoo47 on 5/3/2014 at 21:04
no. the difference between TG 1.37 and NewDark is zero, because NewDark has a dedicated TG 1.37 legacy mode - for example, running the original TG demo only requires enabling it, while making the T2 demo run under NewDark required substantial effort of quite a few people.
also, the unwelcome guest and lost alpha missions now are different, because the lost alpha has been reprocessed with NewDark. I think if you would take a TG save made with vanilla TFixed mission and tried to use it with the hdmod, it wouldn't work either.
and yeah, this topic is kind of lost here - I'm planning to do one more update to the demos, and then I'll ask some moderator to link it in the NewDark sticky, that should give it a better exposure.
ZylonBane on 5/3/2014 at 21:06
Quote Posted by Xmodule999
These are the same missions.
If they're the same, then why are you wasting time with the new version?
Oh right-- because they're NOT the same.
Xmodule999 on 5/3/2014 at 21:10
Quote Posted by voodoo47
no. the difference between TG 1.37 and NewDark is zero, because NewDark has a dedicated TG 1.37 legacy mode.
It is not zero - in case of some missions there are a lot of issues while loading old savegames in Thief 1.21 e.g. circulating mage, hammerite or spider (you can't fix hardcore bugs, because you are not a programmer; also there is no access to source code of T1/T2).
