Platinumoxicity on 1/7/2010 at 11:21

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Yeah, I'm also trying to reintroduce myself to the no-saves (or just saves before really probable instant deaths) gameplay with escaping and stuff. There's just the eternal conflict between "zero violence" and "zero witnesses". When you put those 2 together, you get quicksaving. But when separate them they don't really require quicksaving at all.

-If you only play with zero violence and use clever tactics and distractions to evade your enemies, you don't need quicksaves because you don't care about witnesses.

-If on the other hand you play with zero witnesses and always go to great lenghts to avoid being seen, by knocking people out and flashbombing them, you still don't need quicksaves because even though you don't want to be detected at all, you can still take your enemies out before they see you.

-If you go all the way, ghosting, you either need to have perfect luck or 20 years of careful observations so that you can time your movements exactly, and you have a different clock running in your head for each guard patrol route. ...Or you just go with quicksaves and save yourself from that trouble.

I have extremely bad luck when it comes to Thief and stealth games in general. Any time there's a dangerous act such as jumping across a chasm, for some weird reason like a random bug or the sudden disconnection of my keyboard I always fall on the first try. If I observe a room from the shadows for 15 minutes to make absolutely sure that no guard patrol routes go through it, once I move to a door to peek inside someone walzes into the room and I'm caught.