Thieves of The Shadows' Age / mutatedminds.com - by [NAUC]Chief
hexarith on 27/3/2007 at 01:06
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Thief 1/G/2 Fan Mission Convertor. A small program (finished and working actually ;) ) that allows original fan mission authors (and those who have sought permission to convert them of course) to convert their fan missions to our tc. There are two things the convertor does, converts the brush work and then converts texture calls to link to our own textures. So on conversion you get all your rooms converted and with textures too :cheeky:I wonder how you did this in detail. I once tried to code an Unreal map loader, but I got lost in the gory details of the package format. At least I found no good source of information about it's structure at that time and soon lost interest quite quckily, as I didn't intended to put to much effort into RE. And since it's much easier to export an Unreal map from UnrealEd into the human readable Unreal Text format I had no real need for it.
I you know some good source of information (don't say "Google") please let me know.
[NAUC]Chief on 27/3/2007 at 12:41
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depends how you read it, i quite like it looking forward to it
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Well, it's really more how you punctuate it. I'm pretty sure Shadows' implies a group. Sorry to be picky, but it just looks and sounds wrong.
It really does depend how you read it, obv. NH is reading it wrong ;) Serioiusly though I guess it's just from a persons perspective. :D
Hexarith:
Actually I think it was in the Thief Editors forums I saw a thread not that long ago listing a whole load of structure info for Thief but that's beside the point really.
Anyway there's already a Thief to UT1 brushwork convertor by Tels out there, on its release he said anyone was free to modify it so we've taken his perl code (easy to understand in a text editor) and modified it to work for unreal engine 3.
The main challenge was that UE3 has changed the file format alot from UT1/2k3|4, as you already know the maps can be read in a text editor so we used two basic cube room maps and compared the two formats until we had a headache (and an idea of the format, but mostly headaches) then got the convertor to convert, then went back and redid it all again several times untill it worked without errors and without floors appearing in the sky etc.
Then we started on the long road of tidying things up etc etc etc.
:)
New Horizon on 27/3/2007 at 14:03
[QUOTE='[NAUC]Chief;1571173']It really does depend how you read it, obv. NH is reading it wrong ;) Serioiusly though I guess it's just from a persons perspective. :D
Well, I wasn't trying to be a Grammar Nazi, but the punctuation does indeed infer ownwership. It's rather confusing.
It would be similar to Thief 2: The Metals' Age. Who would "The Metals" be in that case? See what I mean? :)
If you don't believe me, read this.
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B. The apostrophe is also used to show possession (or ownership) in the following ways:
If the thing/person that owns something is singular, add 's
Examples:
The girl's books (the books belonging to the girl)
Mary's lamb (the lamb belonging to Mary)
The princess's robes (the robes belonging to the princess)
If the thing/person that owns something is plural and already ends with an "s", simply add an apostrophe.
Examples:
The girls' books (the books belonging to the girls)
The princesses' crowns (the crowns belonging to the princesses)
If the thing/person that owns something is plural but does not end in an "s", add 's
Examples:
The women's club (the club belonging to the women)
The men's shirts (the shirts belonging to the men)
It could be that you actually intend it to have that meaning, but if not...it would make more sense to drop the plural form and just say, "Thieves of the Shadow Age".
Just trying to help guys. :)
[NAUC]Chief on 27/3/2007 at 17:13
:laff: okay so I admit I didn't expect thread to become an english grammar and punctuation discussion ;) but the apostrophe is correct :D
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Well, I wasn't trying to be a Grammar Nazi
I know, you just wondered after our 40'000 name changes whether this one was right or not ;)
Ziemanskye on 27/3/2007 at 17:50
Does perhaps beg the question of which T3ed project though - I know of one for TMA which seems to come and go, and there was that guy trying to map all the climbable bits of TDS and I think he called it that, but there's no currently ongoing use of the name I know of.
Vigil on 27/3/2007 at 19:50
The apostrophe is technically correct but it highlights the fact that the title itself is dreadfully awkward, which several people in this thread have pointed out; hell, that this debate exists in the first place is proof. Rewrite it to something where you don't have to explain at length the presence of a clumsy apostrophe.
[NAUC]Chief on 28/3/2007 at 01:54
As previously mentioned just refer to it by its short name of TOTSA then there's no apostrophe :D
And the T3Ed project is (
http://www.thieveshighway.org) for those interested.
New Horizon on 28/3/2007 at 02:45
[QUOTE='[NAUC]Chief;1571416']As previously mentioned just refer to it by its short name of TOTSA then there's no apostrophe :D
And the T3Ed project is (
http://www.thieveshighway.org) for those interested.
I think you guys really need to listen to the feedback. A name can really cast a shadow over a project, and this name is definitely not the best choice.
Since you had originally called it "The Thieves' Highway, an obvious name would have been "The Thieves' Age".
ZylonBane on 28/3/2007 at 03:10
"Thieves of The Shadows' Age" sounds exactly like you fed the titles of every other Thief game into a random phrase generator.
ascottk on 28/3/2007 at 04:24
The T3Ed community project is actually called
The Cabal put together by "The Flesh Eaters" team. (
http://www.thieveshighway.org/) was put together by MrJay (jay pettitt as he's known here). I was originally the lead figure head but T3's limitations made me frustrated :mad:
Anyway, I think (
http://www.thieveshighway.org/) could host further T3Ed projects after
The Cabal is done.
