Thieves Quarters......and the wonders of Newdark

fortuni on 23/4/2015 at 07:53

Thought my save crashed when you picked up the hammer ?

If it does can you post a save then voodoo can campare my save vs a crash dump save and he might be able to see what is happening (looks like valmontphl also gets the mission to work, so it's beginning to look positive)

Cardia on 23/4/2015 at 11:18

Quote Posted by fortuni

the quicksave didn´t work for me. i don´t know why

fortuni on 23/4/2015 at 12:07

here you are Voodoo

Thieves Quarters crashdump save (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7UExWqHXPI2eHRXX1pySWo2eUE/view?usp=sharing)

from TG patched with original 1.19 Newdark

<Username> on 18/4/2019 at 22:03

I played this on NewDark 1.26, had no problems with crashes, but was able to climb up a few walls I probably was not supposed to that easily. This included the area with the Cthulhu statue, the small cemetery with the message in a bottle, and the wall surrounding the courtyard of the haunted church. The problems that were always in the mission persisted: Most notably, the spawning guards cannot be blackjacked.

The Thieves Quarter is a bit more technical the other early Thief fan missions. The floating books and chairs fit the setting of a haunted church. Seeing the haunt lose his skin after the first hit with the sword was quite the surprise. I also noticed ghosts orbs in the torches. This makes sense in a place where there is nobody left alive to light them. Taking apart the wall in the tomb area was fun. The hint on how to open Jakob's tomb was just right: If players have seen the holy hammer before, they are likely to put two and two together.

Finding the Builder's Chisel gave me a headache. I missed both the secret room in the library and the hidden key in the statue on the ground floor. I felt that was needlessly difficult and I don't think anything in the mission hints at that solution.

Other minor issues I noticed: You can get stuck under a beam on the upper floor of the haunted church. Some doorknobs float slightly besides the door they are supposed to be attached to. The ominous Cthulhu statue feels a bit out of place. The German translation by von.Eins contains a few too many typos and grammatical errors to ignore them.

Finished on the easiest difficulty on 1 hour and 9 minutes with 1452 of 2302 total loot.

fortuni on 28/6/2022 at 06:27

dml courtesy Glypher

Fixes:

- final goal (now irreversible)
- loot
- gate lever
- doors (protection, scaling, open angles, positions, blockfrob)
- quest items (holy hammer - correct type, teleport, mage's medallion - teleport, talisman of fire)
- newmantle issues
- AIs
- scrolls (positions, teleports)
- broadhead arrows
- various minor fixes

Code:

DML1
//T1 FM: The Thieves Quarter by Alan Miles (Rugball) / Fixes: miss21.mis.dml

#script "nvscript"

//final goal
+Link 61 77 "ControlDevice"
{
}
ObjProp 61 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrigRoomPlayer
}
+ObjProp 75 "DiffTurnOn"
{
"quest var values" 0, 1, 2
}
+ObjProp 75 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrapSetQVar
}
+ObjProp 75 "TrapQVar"
{
"" =75:goal_target_6
}
+Link 76 77 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 76 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVTrigQVar
}
+ObjProp 76 "TrapQVar"
{
"" =1:goal_state_5
}
+Link 77 78 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 77 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrapRequireAll
}
+ObjProp 78 "TrapFlags"
{
"" Once
}
+ObjProp 78 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrapSetQVar
}
+ObjProp 78 "TrapQVar"
{
"" =1:goal_state_6
}
+ObjProp 78 "GameName"
{
"" Name_BartokC: "Bartok's Corpse"
}
+Link 713 77 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 713 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVTrigContained
}
+Link 987 77 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 987 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVTrigContained
}
+Link 1132 77 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+Link 1220 77 "ControlDevice"
{
}

//loot
+ObjProp 411 "DiffDestroy"
{
"quest var values" 0
}
+ObjProp 1451 "Loot"
{
}
+ObjProp 1452 "Loot"
{
}

//gate lever
+ObjProp 12 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 0.70
}
+ObjProp 43 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrapRelay
"Don't Inherit" true
}

//broadhead arrows
-ObjProp 13 "PhysType"
-ObjProp 478 "PhysType"

//doors
+Receptron 18 "WeaponStim"
{
Min None
Max None
Effect "Abort"
}
+ObjProp 18 "DiffRemoveProp"
{
"quest var values" 0
"alt quest var values" 1, 2
"Properties" FrobInfo
}
+ObjProp 18 "FrobInfo"
{
}
+ObjProp 18 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
ObjProp 18 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 0.00
}
ObjProp 111 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 150 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 151 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 216 "RotDoor"
{
"Open Angle" 90
"Clockwise?" false
}
ObjProp 216 "Position"
{
"Heading" 0
}
-ObjProp 216 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 216 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 263 "Scale"
{
"" 0.7143, 0.7143, 1.2143
}
ObjProp 264 "Scale"
{
"" 0.7143, 0.7143, 1.2143
}
+Receptron 527 "FireStim"
{
Min None
Max None
Effect "Abort"
}
+ObjProp 527 "Scale"
{
"" 1.05, 1, 1.05
}
-ObjProp 527 "JointPos"
-ObjProp 561 "JointPos"
+MetaProp 698 -2420
ObjProp 709 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
+Link 792 793 "ScriptParams"
{
"" Double
}
ObjProp 792 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 793 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 807 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 882 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 886 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
Receptron 919 "LightBright" 00210017
{
Min 99
Max None
}
++Receptron 919 "LightBright"
{
Min 99
Max None

Target 1217

Effect "rem_prop"
{
"Prop Name" FrobInfo
}
}
++Receptron 919 "LightBright"
{
Min 99
Max None

Target 1241

Effect "rem_prop"
{
"Prop Name" FrobInfo
}
}
+MetaProp 919 -2420
+Link 972 973 "ScriptParams"
{
"" Double
}
ObjProp 972 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 973 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 1048 "RotDoor"
{
"Open Angle" 90
"Clockwise?" false
}
ObjProp 1048 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
+ObjProp 1049 "FrobInfo"
{
}
ObjProp 1049 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 1054 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
ObjProp 1055 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
-ObjProp 1133 "JointPos"
ObjProp 1157 "Scale"
{
"" 0.7143, 0.7143, 1.2143
}
ObjProp 1170 "Scale"
{
"" 0.7143, 0.7143, 1.2143
}
+ObjProp 1195 "KeyDst"
{
"RegionMask" 1
"LockID" 222
}
ObjProp 1195 "Scale"
{
"" 0.7143, 0.7143, 1.2143
}
+ObjProp 1196 "KeyDst"
{
"RegionMask" 1
"LockID" 222
}
ObjProp 1196 "Scale"
{
"" 0.7143, 0.7143, 1.2143
}
ObjProp 1197 "Scale"
{
"" 0.7143, 0.7143, 1.2143
}
ObjProp 1198 "Scale"
{
"" 0.7143, 0.7143, 1.2143
}
ObjProp 1330 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}
-ObjProp 1369 "JointPos"
+Receptron 1369 "WeaponStim"
{
Min None
Max None
Effect "Abort"
}
+Receptron 1369 "FireStim"
{
Min None
Max None
Effect "Abort"
}
ObjProp 1149 "Scale"
{
"" 1.333, 1.333, 1.143
}

//quest items
-Link 22 363 "ControlDevice"
-Link 22 299 "ControlDevice"
+ObjProp 292 "DiffDestroy"
{
"quest var values" 1, 2
}
-Link 363 1135 "ControlDevice"
+Link 363 1131 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 363 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRelayTrapCount=1
}
+ObjProp 363 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVRelayTrap
"Don't Inherit" true
}
StimSource 858 "LightBright"
{
Propagator "Contact"
}
ObjProp 858 "FrobInfo"
{
"Inv Action" None
}
+ObjProp 858 "InvType"
{
"" Item
}
+Link 858 870 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+Link 858 1020 "ControlDevice"
{
}
ObjProp 858 "Scripts"
{
"Script 1" TweqOnOff
}
+ObjProp 870 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrapDestroy
}
+ObjProp 1020 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRelayTrapOn="TurnOff"; NVRelayTrapOff="TurnOn"; NVRelayTrapCount=1
}
+Link 1020 858 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 1020 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVRelayTrap
}
+MetaProp 1020 -2419
+ObjProp 1132 "StackCount"
{
}
-Link 1135 1131 "ControlDevice"
+Link 1135 363 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 1135 "Position"
{
"Location" -12.5, 39.5, -11.5
}
-ObjProp 1135 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 1135 "PhysType"
{
"Type" Sphere
}
+ObjProp 1179 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRelayTrapCount=1
}
+ObjProp 1179 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVRelayTrap
"Don't Inherit" true
}
-Receptron 1226 "WaterStim"

//AIs
-Link 80 197 "AIWatchObj"
+ObjProp 80 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" ramgca
}
+ObjProp 197 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" conhumca
}
+ObjProp 199 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" olwosvca
}
+ObjProp 222 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" conhumca
}
+ObjProp 394 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" ramgca
}
+ObjProp 414 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" ramgca
}
+ObjProp 475 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" conhumca
}
+Receptron 584 "Stench"
{
Max None

Target 730
Agent -2418

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" Material Tags
}
}
++Receptron 584 "Stench"
{
Max None

Target 858
Agent 1403

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" PhysDims
}
}
+StimSource 584 "Stench"
{
Intensity 1
Propagator "Radius"
}
+ObjProp 584 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVLinkBuilderOff="FrobWorldEnd"; NVLinkBuilderLinkType="PhysAttach"; NVLinkBuilderLinkSource=718; NVLinkBuilderLinkDest=730
}
+ObjProp 584 "FrobInfo"
{
"World Action" Script
}
+ObjProp 584 "PickDist"
{
"" -5.00
}
+ObjProp 584 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVLinkBuilder
}
ObjProp 718 "CollisionType"
{
"" None
}
Receptron 730 "HolyStim" 00210003
{
Target 584
Effect "frob_obj"
}
++Receptron 730 "HolyStim"
{
Max None

Target 718
Agent -7

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" CollisionType
}
}
++Receptron 730 "HolyStim"
{
Max None

Target 718
Agent -1286

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" PhysControl
}
}
++Receptron 730 "HolyStim"
{
Max None
Target Me
Effect "destroy_obj"
}
++Receptron 777 "Knockout"
{
Min None
Max None

Effect "SetQvar"
{
"Quest Variable" goal_state_0
"Operation" Set To
"Operand" 3
}
}
+Receptron 777 "Stench"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent 78

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" GameName
}
}
+ObjProp 777 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRelayTrapOn="Slain"; NVRelayTrapTDest="[Me]"; NVRelayTrapTOn="[1.00]Stench"
}
+ObjProp 777 "GameName"
{
"" Name_Bartok: "Bartok"
}
+ObjProp 777 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" frakusca
}
Link 777 347 "AIWatchObj"
{
"Response: Step 1" Add link(Flavor,Destination(s),Source(s))
" Argument 1" PhysAttach
" Argument 2" 73
" Argument 3" Player
"Response: Step 2" Face(Angle,Object(-1 for angle relative to self))
" Argument 2"[1] Player
" Argument 3"[1] ""
"Response: Step 3" Play sound/motion(Sound Concept,Sound Tags,Motion Tags)
" Argument 3"[2] Conversation 0, Foo 0, Baz 0
"Response: Step 4" Play sound/motion(Sound Concept,Sound Tags,Motion Tags)
" Argument 1"[3] ""
" Argument 2"[3] ""
" Argument 3"[3] WorldFrob 0, AtWaist 0
"Response: Step 5" Remove link(Flavor,Destination(s),Source(s))
" Argument 1"[4] Contains
" Argument 2"[4] 1132
" Argument 3"[4] Player
"Response: Step 6" Frob object(Target Object,With Object)
" Argument 1"[5] 1184
"Response: Step 7" Frob object(Target Object,With Object)
" Argument 1"[6] 60
" Argument 2"[6] ""
" Argument 3"[6] ""
"Response: Step 8" Add link(Flavor,Destination(s),Source(s))
" Argument 1"[7] Contains
" Argument 2"[7] 10
" Argument 3"[7] Player
"Response: Step 9" Remove link(Flavor,Destination(s),Source(s))
" Argument 1"[8] PhysAttach
" Argument 2"[8] 73
" Argument 3"[8] Player
}
+ObjProp 777 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVRelayTrap
}
+ObjProp 992 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" ramireca
}
+ObjProp 1039 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" ramgca
}
+ObjProp 1067 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" thgrswca
}
+ObjProp 1074 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" ramgca
}
+ObjProp 1280 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" ramgca
}
+Receptron 1345 "Stench"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent 78

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" GameName
}
}
+ObjProp 1345 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRelayTrapOn="Slain"; NVRelayTrapTDest="[Me]"; NVRelayTrapTOn="[1.00]Stench"
}
+ObjProp 1345 "GameName"
{
"" Name_Bartok: "Bartok"
}
+ObjProp 1345 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" frakusca
}
+ObjProp 1345 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVRelayTrap
}
+ObjProp 1421 "InvRendType"
{
"Type" Alternate Bitmap
"Resource" ramgca
}
Link 404 657 "AIWatchObj"
{
" Argument 1" ""
" Argument 2" 587
}
Link 648 1238 "AIWatchObj"
{
" Argument 1"[1] ""
" Argument 2"[1] 1263
}
Link 983 1026 "AIWatchObj"
{
" Argument 1"[1] ""
" Argument 2"[1] 1224
}
Link 1074 1004 "AIWatchObj"
{
" Argument 1" ""
" Argument 2" 1066
}

//mantling
Create -445 "Blocker1"
{
+ObjProp "Position"
{
"Location" -208, 27.1, -8
"Pitch" c000
}
+ObjProp "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp "RenderType"
{
"" Not Rendered
}
+ObjProp "Material Tags"
{
"1: Tags" ""
}
+ObjProp "Scale"
{
"" 1, 1, 0.85
}
}
-ObjProp "Blocker1" "PhysType"
+ObjProp "Blocker1" "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
Create -445 "Blocker2"
{
+ObjProp "Position"
{
"Location" -248.9, 73.5, -10
"Bank" c000
}
+ObjProp "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp "RenderType"
{
"" Not Rendered
}
+ObjProp "Material Tags"
{
"1: Tags" ""
}
+ObjProp "Scale"
{
"" 1, 1, 3
}
}
-ObjProp "Blocker2" "PhysType"
+ObjProp "Blocker2" "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 110 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 153 "Position"
{
"Location" -52.5, 29, 1
}
-ObjProp 153 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 153 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 153 "Material Tags"
{
}
+ObjProp 211 "Position"
{
"Location" -52.5, 19.75, 1
}
-ObjProp 211 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 211 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 211 "Material Tags"
{
}
+ObjProp 214 "Position"
{
"Location" -52.5, 10.5, 1
}
-ObjProp 214 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 214 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 214 "Material Tags"
{
}
+ObjProp 236 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 253 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 279 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 282 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 445 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 530 "Material Tags"
{
}
+ObjProp 823 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 848 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 850 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 851 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 854 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 856 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 857 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1084 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1165 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1167 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1175 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1188 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1202 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1259 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1260 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 1329 "Position"
{
"Location" -217.2, 23, -1
}
-ObjProp 1329 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 1329 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 1329 "Material Tags"
{
}

//scrolls
-ObjProp 176 "PhysType"
-ObjProp 405 "PhysType"
-Receptron 257 "SlashStim"
-Receptron 257 "SlashStim"
+Receptron 257 "Stench"
{
Max None

Target 1155
Agent 197

Effect "move_obj"
{
"Position" 1, 1, -3.1
}
}
++Receptron 257 "Stench"
{
Max None

Target 1403
Agent 197

Effect "move_obj"
{
"Position" 1, 1, -3.1
}
}
+ObjProp 257 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRelayTrapOn="Slain"; NVRelayTrapTDest="[Me]"; NVRelayTrapTOn="[1.00]Stench"
}
ObjProp 257 "Scripts"
{
"Script 3" NVRelayTrap
}
+ObjProp 877 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVMetaTrapOn="FrobWorldEnd"; NVMetaTrapOnDelay=5500; NVMetaTrapMeta="FrobInert"
}
ObjProp 877 "Scripts"
{
"Script 1" NVMetaTrap
}

//footlockers
+ObjProp 224 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 90.00
}
ObjProp 330 "Position"
{
"Heading" 0
}
-ObjProp 330 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 330 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 330 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 90.00
}
+ObjProp 679 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 90.00
}
+ObjProp 855 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 90.00
}
+ObjProp 862 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 90.00
}
+ObjProp 914 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 90.00
}
+ObjProp 1126 "JointPos"
{
"Joint 1" 90.00
}

//misplaced objects
ObjProp 328 "Position"
{
"Heading" 4000
}
-ObjProp 328 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 328 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 329 "Position"
{
"Heading" 0
}
-ObjProp 329 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 329 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 435 "Position"
{
"Heading" 0
}
-ObjProp 435 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 435 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 532 "Position"
{
"Heading" 4000
}
-ObjProp 532 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 532 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 635 "Position"
{
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}
-ObjProp 635 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 635 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 1106 "Position"
{
"Heading" 4000
}
-ObjProp 1106 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 1106 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 1204 "Position"
{
"Heading" 4000
}
-ObjProp 1204 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 1204 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 1205 "Position"
{
"Heading" 4000
}
-ObjProp 1205 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 1205 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}

//various objects
+ObjProp 31 "FrobInfo"
{
}
+ObjProp 1217 "FrobInfo"
{
}
+ObjProp 1241 "FrobInfo"
{
}
+MetaProp 429 -2419
+MetaProp 791 -2419