Xenith on 13/9/2008 at 23:26

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ditto. I can think of a couple more games. SS2 annoyed me with that too.


also the damn indications that pop up once in a while in games, like "press Shift to crouch" or "you can rip an enemies penis off by using the stapler's secondary function" becomes tedious at some point.

Shadowcat on 13/9/2008 at 23:31

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Well that sounds like the clipping is working perfectly.

You could still refer to those things as clipping problems, but the clipping itself isn't actually actually what you want to be improved :)

It's a collision detection issue at face value, but there are bunch of other factors as well. Once the character collides with something like that, how does it react? What should the animation system do if the animation it wants to use will result in such a collision, and what kind of additional technology must be introduced to handle that? If someone's foot goes through their ass when they kneel, is it animation or modelling that's at fault? If you don't have the technology to make it look perfect every time, then is it better to apply your animations to a collection of cookie-cutter models with different textures, or should you vary your models at the risk of introducing a few clipping problems in some cases? Or should you provide every distinct model with a customised set of animations? And if the latter, how do you deal with subsequent changes to the animation sequences?

I agree that it looks naff when solid objects intersect, mind, but it usually seems to me that improving these little issues implies some pretty significant additional tech. It would be nice to think that the likes of the Unreal Engine would by now offer the facilities to easily prevent such occurrences, and that large studios would have the resources to make it happen for their game.

At least with the modern prevalence of physics in games, corpses and other falling objects don't usually fall through the walls these days, so it's not like there's been no progress in these areas :)

gunsmoke on 14/9/2008 at 05:18

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My list

IGI 2 had bunkers that you could sweep and clear 100%, and if you left and set off an alarm....enemies would POUR out of them. :rolleyes:

Shooters, where the guns are basically the stars of the show, having WEAK sounds attached to them.

Unskippable cut-scenes will damn-near make me quit playing.

Invisible walls, fake doors, fences, boxes, trees, cliffs, etc...whose sole purpose is to force me down a corridor of sorts.

CRATES :mad: come on, we're still using them?

Horribly optimized games.

slapped together ports.

Escort missions

One-man-army gameplay

gunsmoke on 14/9/2008 at 06:48

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I like in Chaos Theory how, if you miss an initial shot while hidden, the enemy will flinch most convincingly.
One thing I have to grant Splinter cell...it improves w/every sequel. (last gen Double Agent considered).

gunsmoke on 14/9/2008 at 06:53

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Not a fan of the series, eh? :D