Thor on 15/6/2015 at 10:03
I'd be kinda surprised if the red woman wouldn't resurrect Jon Shnyo. I never felt like he's an important character (same with the dragons girlie as well) but the show/books are really hyping them up and there are some pretty fancy theories out there that support this. But if grrm is all for plot twists, then even better (I daud it tho). Only I can't think of many people left on the show anymore who would fit the bill, plus everyone I liked (save a few guys in Esos) died a season ago lol.
The dragons girlie I would like to kick the bucket or just gtfo of the show at this point. Send her somewhere far east and let her do some pottery or something useful like that. She's more suited for that kind of a life.
Also, is that high sparrow stuff accurate to grrrm's source material? If so then I didn't know grrrrm is such a religion hater lol. I'm not a fan of it myself, but the way they were portrayed made them look like the most demented guys in the GoT universe. It was a bit too bizzare and disbelievable for me. For god's sake, they made Ceresi of all people look like the sanest person in the room. I also think Ramsey is saner than them, because Ramsey is just a passionate evil bastard and he knows it, but these guys are so oblivious and they genuinely think they're not insane.
Speaking of Ramsey, I like how Theon finally joined the light side. Perhaps there is now another character to root for.
I think my favorite scene from this season was the bit in 8th episode where the ginger wildling beat up the all-talk wilding. That was even funnier than Tyrion's one-liners (or him beating up his own esos wildling).
Oh, and Stannis - well, he already got the father of the year award last episode and his character got kinda ruined, so I guess that swift end was eased onto us, cause I was pretty apathetic about him dying or not, though Brienne killing killing him (weird how they didn't show it this time) was kind of symbolic and predictable. The red woman is kind of dumb so I'm not holding much hopes for anything good coming from wherever she is, but maybe she's learned at least a thing or two by now.
Ooh, and Aarya's scenes were really fun this time around. Going all psycho like any angry kid would in his/her fantasies, but full-on brutal and in reality. Nice 'n' fucked up, just the way I like my game of thrones.
Overall interesting season, but also a bit boring. Parts of it were awesome, but other parts (probably more than half) were not.
Looking forward to seeing every good character except Tyrion die next season I guess. How many seasons were they going for anyway? 7 or 8?
Severian_Silk on 15/6/2015 at 17:08
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Also, is that high sparrow stuff accurate to grrrm's source material? If so then I didn't know grrrrm is such a religion hater lol. I'm not a fan of it myself, but the way they were portrayed made them look like the most demented guys in the GoT universe. It was a bit too bizzare and disbelievable for me. For god's sake, they made Ceresi of all people look like the sanest person in the room. I also think Ramsey is saner than them, because Ramsey is just a passionate evil bastard and he knows it, but these guys are so oblivious and they genuinely think they're not insane.
It's very accurate. This scene is certainly bizzare, but, like many other scenes in the Game of Thrones, it was based on a real-life event (
http://time.com/3921066/cersei-game-of-thrones-history/) . The world was always pretty much insane.
Renault on 15/6/2015 at 17:31
As a watcher of the show, and not someone who's read the books, I don't understand any of the High Sparrow/Seven scenario. The main thing is, how did this group get so much power? Why can't Tommen (he is THE KING after all) just send a legion of troops over there and order them to release Cersei/Margery/Loras? It doesn't seem to make any sense. And then Cersei needs to do this "walk of shame" thing for what, sleeping with Lancel? I'd say the crime doesn't quite match the punishment there. It just all seems pointless and not in line with how King's Landing operated in the first four seasons.
faetal on 15/6/2015 at 18:33
I've liked this season least of all. Possibly because it diverges so far from the books, but possibly because like the books, there's the least amount of cool stuff happening. Probably a bit of both.
Dia on 16/6/2015 at 12:27
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I don't understand any of the High Sparrow/Seven scenario. The main thing is, how did this group get so much power?
Because Cersei handed that power to them in order to get rid of Margaery. Talk about Karma coming back around and kicking you in the ass; Cersei certainly got her comeuppance (or at least part of it). According to the High Sparrow, adultery and fornication are SERIOUS sins, so the whole 'walk of shame' thing fits with their idea of atonement and repentance; through humiliation and deprivation one learns to let go of their 'sinful ego', or something like that. The Sparrows have gained even more power since the peasants realized that the royals can be brought down a couple pegs by the religious group; I doubt that the poor rabble are converting to the religious beliefs of the Sparrows as much as they're just enjoying watching much-hated royals being humiliated in public and are therefore have started to support the Sparrows in droves. But I doubt Cersei's going to just sit back and let bygones be; from the look on her face as she's being carried into the castle, she has anything but repentance and atonement on her mind (that evil child in me is rubbing her hands together and chortling, 'This is gonna be GOOD!'). As far as why Tommen hasn't done anything to get his beloved (or his mommy) back from the clutches of the Sparrows, he's still just a kid and doesn't know how to throw his kingly Lannister weight around yet. Plus, there are FAR too many people in his inner circle who are probably enjoying Cersei's incarceration and humiliation and whom are counseling him not to move against the Sparrows. I have a feeling that heads are gonna start rolling in earnest next season, but it won't be at Tommen's command. :ebil:
faetal on 16/6/2015 at 12:32
The good news for all of those who watch the show at least is that book assholes like myself no longer have any clue of what will or won't happen given how much B&W have exercised their executive control over the show's storylines.
Dia on 16/6/2015 at 12:38
It makes me wonder, faetal, whether Martin is amending his next book to follow more closely to HBO's version of GoT or if there are going to be glaring differences between next book and this last season's episodes. I also wonder whether the next book is going to be released before next season or if we're looking at another couple years of breath-holding, waiting for it to be finished and published. I just hope Martin finishes it and gets it published soon; he's not getting any younger. Just sayin'.
faetal on 16/6/2015 at 12:43
I'm going to just assume that B&W have him chained in a basement somewhere and occasionally open to door to change his bedding, give him water and chuck a handful of muesli at him in exchange for hints of where they can take the story. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even have any input. The books themselves read like he ran out of steam. My prediction is that he won't ever finish the books and B&W's continuation is all we'll get, possibly supplemented by some fan fiction based on what the real fans of the books think should have happened.
Dia on 17/6/2015 at 12:42
Gawd, I certainly hope that prediction doesn't prove true, faetal! Besides, wouldn't Martin be under contract with his publishers to produce another book within a set time period? Afterall, it's already been four years since A Dance with Dragons was published, so he's just got to be facing some sort of deadline, wouldn't you think? Of course, he could just publish a book of jokes to fulfill that contract if he's really hit a writer's block with the next GoT. Anyway, my prediction is that GoT will just come to an abrupt end next season when EVERYONE in the saga gets killed off. Except the dragons, of course. :(
Pyrian on 17/6/2015 at 14:59
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Besides, wouldn't Martin be under contract with his publishers to produce another book within a set time period?
If he was - which he probably wasn't, having neither the temperament nor the powerlessness for it - it would have surely expired some time ago.
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Anyway, my prediction is that GoT will just come to an abrupt end next season when EVERYONE in the saga gets killed off. Except the dragons, of course. :(
I've been rooting for the white walkers to wipe out the lot of 'em since the first book.
