SubJeff on 15/8/2012 at 07:37
Hmmm. I don't think I agree with you dema, I think ZB has it right.
There are 2 ways of looking at it in Tron - 1. It's the literal computer world, 2. It's a metaphor for one mans hacking attempts one night. Of course this doesn't fit with Tron 2.
But I don't think it's VR at all.
faetal on 15/8/2012 at 09:29
Quote Posted by demagogue
...in Tron, the system treated it like a transporter in Star Trek, where it disassembled the guy in "our world" and reassembled it in "its world"...
The joys of writing sequels to '80s films - you get to deal with '80s logic.
demagogue on 15/8/2012 at 09:38
Haha, to be more reasonable, I have to think it was pretty much meant as a metaphor too. Programs are guys, when they "die" they get erased, lasers are signals, the HD is a massive world space you "travel" through, and the OS is this big behemoth monster thing. And the Star Trek warping was just like way to say, ok, we're leaving normal reality and going to metaphor reality now. Not going to try wrapping my head around what Tron 2 wanted to do.
faetal on 15/8/2012 at 09:45
Seriously though, have you tried re-watching some '80s classics?
Realism and plausibility (not just real life possibility, but also in terms of fiction following its own internal logic) have come a long, long way.
Neb on 15/8/2012 at 10:01
As much as I love the way psychological thrillers can have elaborately rational explanations, there is always something wonderful about fiction that plays a metaphor out literally, but so that it's easily understood thematically.
faetal on 15/8/2012 at 10:23
So long as it follows its own logic, yeah. I've found that an increase in logical consistency (not reality, just consistency) over the years has really thrown some of the earlier stuff into sharp relief.
ZylonBane on 16/8/2012 at 19:50
Quote Posted by faetal
Seriously though, have you tried re-watching some '80s classics?
Realism and plausibility (not just real life possibility, but also in terms of fiction following its own internal logic) have come a long, long way.
Yeah, just look at Inception and Source Code. So much more sensible!
faetal on 16/8/2012 at 20:01
I didn't say things were perfect did I?
We get to be someone else's '80s.
icemann on 18/8/2012 at 15:47
One way to look at it, is that it is someone else`s view of Cyberspace from back then, or an alternate reality view. Which is how I see it nowadays. Take Back To The Future's view of the 2000s for example vs how things have actually turned out.
Vivian on 18/8/2012 at 16:01
I imagine cyberspace would bypass your visual sense entirely anyway. Having info dumped directly into your brain would probably be more like remembering or imagining something than anything else. So how you do you visualise, say, remembering a street address or a telephone number? Or having a conversation in your head? Some kind of dream sequence? (actual dream sequence, not visiting a fucking travelodge a la inception). If you were looking up visual information that's easy, but if it's basically just facts/figures or concepts, how do you visualise that?
