demagogue on 19/8/2012 at 05:05
That sounds more like Johnny Mnemonic. You didn't visualize the information (IIRC), you visualized him plugging in and physically reacting to it. Or Chuck, where there's flashes of documents and blueprints that blip across the screen.
ZylonBane on 19/8/2012 at 17:17
Quote Posted by faetal
I didn't say things were perfect did I?
We get to be someone else's '80s.
That would be Hot Tub Time Machine.
Look, there have
always been works of fiction with impeccable internal logic, ones composed of pure fever-dream nonsense, and everything in between. Nothing's changed. Selective memory hasn't changed either.
demagogue on 20/8/2012 at 07:15
Aaaaand here's another one (possibly needless '80s remake): (
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1234719/)
Edit:
Quote:
A group of teenagers look to save their town from an invasion of North Korean soldiers.
an invasion of North Korean soldiers.
North Korean
Wut?
june gloom on 20/8/2012 at 08:04
Welcome to a post-Soviet world. There just aren't a lot of state-level bad guys anymore.
Kolya on 20/8/2012 at 08:08
Even the original "Red Dawn" is merely of historical interest because Swayze and Grey met in it (and hated each other). But it's an absurdly bad film anyway.
demagogue on 20/8/2012 at 08:29
It could have been credible threat if it had been a Chinese invasion, but I gather that wouldn't have done well for its PR or marketing.
The movie wasn't all that great objectively, but to American kids growing up in the 1980s, Red Dawn had a lot of cultural baggage. I mean a lot of kids had real nightmares about a Soviet invasion, so it tapped a nerve (we can probably thank Reagan. adding Cuba in the movie was a stretch though; that's the part that N. Korea reminds me of). But I remember that (Soviet invasion; or in-coming ICBMs) being about the only thing I was really ever actually afraid could happen in the US or to my hometown, as far as epic disasters go, especially since we lived very near a major base. That made the movie hit a lot harder at the time than any other kind of disaster or war movie. Maybe an overblown fear in retrospect, but it was the times... (Edit: And yes I can totally recognize how manipulative that was. It still tapped a deep fear.)
Edit: It's another reason that a remake doesn't really make any sense today though. Even if you wanted to tap that older audience, you're pitching the wrong cast. You're certainly not going to speak to kids today.
Fafhrd on 20/8/2012 at 08:33
Red Dawn remake was actually scripted and shot with China as the invading force, but it's been sitting for a couple of years now while they changed it to North Korea with reshoots and changing flags in post and such.
SubJeff on 20/8/2012 at 08:34
The original is fantastic jingoistic cheese though. Surely you can recognise it as that Kolya.
Kolya on 20/8/2012 at 08:44
Yah but I lack the receptors to enjoy it somehow. Would be different for a parody or sth, eg I always enjoyed Sledge Hammer.
faetal on 20/8/2012 at 11:28
I found the original a bit so-so, but I guess I wasn't raised around the US propaganda of the red terror, so like Dema says, nothing to tap in to.
I guess they had to pick a country that it wouldn't matter about pissing off. North Korea are so isolationist and filtered that if they even hear about the film, the reviews / synopses will likely be about how North Korea liberates the US from oppression and all of its people live happily ever after in glorious peace under the divine leadership of DPRK.
