Namdrol on 18/1/2010 at 00:18
Yup, the Sinatra is in the very first TTLG list that's no longer collaborative.
Jackablade on 18/1/2010 at 00:28
All I want is to not use subgenres at all.
june gloom on 18/1/2010 at 01:13
Then let's put the same logic on books. Oh here's a trashy romance novel, let's put that on the same shelf as the Shakespeare anthology because WE DON'T CARE ABOUT LITERARY GENRES.
oh wait we can't do that because how dare you lump in Tina Lonelywife with the great heroes of the Bard!?!?!?!?!?!/1/oneslash
Jackablade on 18/1/2010 at 02:43
Is ambient music widespread enough to require subgenres when talking about it in general music discussions? If we're discussing the merits of our favourite ambient artists then by all means bring out your glitch, sinewave, and drone nomenclature but if we're just talking about music then I don't feel it's necessary. Rock, on the other hand, is a genre that requires more specificity, much like your above comparison.
Really though, my big problem with "dark ambient" is that it sounds like something a high school student would say.
Whoa...keep those major chords away from me. I like my ambience dark.
june gloom on 18/1/2010 at 02:46
We're sorry, your argument cannot be parsed. It is too stupid. Please try again. Or not, preferably.
SubJeff on 18/1/2010 at 10:46
Dark Ambient is a perfectly acceptable sub-genre description Jackablade. It pays to be specific when classifying music. For example check this site out: (
http://www.di.fm/)
The number of sub-genres in the Listen Now menu is pretty big, no? And yet its all perfectly justified.
SubJeff on 18/1/2010 at 13:57
I now have premium so I have invites.
Kuuso on 18/1/2010 at 14:05
Quote Posted by Jackablade
Is ambient music widespread enough to require subgenres when talking about it in general music discussions? If we're discussing the merits of our favourite ambient artists then by all means bring out your glitch, sinewave, and drone nomenclature but if we're just talking about music then I don't feel it's necessary. Rock, on the other hand, is a genre that requires more specificity, much like your above comparison.
Really though, my big problem with "dark ambient" is that it sounds like something a high school student would say.
Whoa...keep those major chords away from me. I like my ambience
dark.
There's so many artists making ambient that subgenres are inevitable, you just don't seem to listen enough of it to realise the difference. You're just basically saying "X is X, because it's insular nerr nerr nerr, but cause Y is better it gets subgenres".
There is a valid distionction with dark ambient, so it's better people use it. If people don't know what it means they can ask or google and learn.
Jackablade on 18/1/2010 at 19:23
It's not that I have a problem with subgenres I'm just trying to figure out why Detholl's use of dark ambient bothers me so much. I think it might actually be because it seems that it's the only kind of ambient music he ever mentions. That shouldn't bug me as much as it does, maybe I feel that he's limiting himself and somehow shunning all the other great kinds of ambient releases, I don't know. It's a great genre and I think most people kind of dismiss it and I want it to have as much support as possible so only mentioning dark ambient is giving exposure to a small subset of what music is available.
Whatever it is that bothers me exactly, it's fine, continue using your subgenre. It's my problem, not yours.
Edit: Also, it's not important but I didn't say rock was better I said it was bigger. In fact I probably prefer ambient to rock or at least enjoy it equally as much.
Also, I'm in Canada so I can't join in the Spotify shit. I would otherwise.
