Under what conditions you will not buy or even not play Thief 4 at all?

MoroseTroll on 25/5/2009 at 13:01

Quote Posted by Brian The Dog

If it has a good Engine & they release a good editor with it, then I can forgive a lot in the game as we could make our own great missions.

AFAIK, Thief 4 will use Tomb Raider: Underworld's engine (a.k.a Crystal Dynamics Engine). I played last one. Average graphics, average size of maps, average performance. On the level of Far Cry 1 (© 2004 Crytek) or even lower, IMHO. So what the reason to wait two-three years for Thief 4 to create your own missions even without a confidence that the game's editor will ever be released? There is another basement exists, and it's name is...TDM ;). Don't waste your time and begin right now.

BrokenArts on 25/5/2009 at 13:59

I really can't answer that till more is known to us.

Bulgarian_Taffer on 25/5/2009 at 14:04

I start think we should all give a chance to Thief 4 when it comes out - we all should try the demo.. After that, we can decide whether to proceed with buying the game or not...

242 on 25/5/2009 at 14:10

Quote Posted by MoroseTroll

So what the reason to wait two-three years for Thief 4 to create your own missions even without a confidence that the game's editor will ever be released? There is another basement exists, and it's name is...TDM ;). Don't waste your time and begin right now.

Can't agree more. Actually, I think T4 devs will have to work really hard and long to even catch up with the current state of TDM engine in terms of feel/features/possibilities/quality.

Plus, seeing the current trends in the game development business, there is a very big chance made by fans TDM will turn up better* than made by pros T4 engine in the end.

* for t1/2 fans at least. Eidos will cater needs of the mass market first and foremost, that's without doubt. And it's not necessarily good for our case (see Bioshock).

BrokenArts on 25/5/2009 at 14:12

I couldn't agree with you more 242. TDM all the way! Its beautiful.

New Horizon on 25/5/2009 at 14:50

When TDS was released, I ran out like a good little puppy and bought it that day. That wont' be happening with T4. Reasons that would make me not buy T4?

1. I will not buy the game if it's a 3rd person/ 1st person hybrid like Deadly Shadows. If EM doesn't respect the series by making it exclusively 1st person, my dollars are gone. There is no logical reason to have a view point that undermines the core gameplay.

2. If they try turning thief into more of an action game, I will not buy it. There are a hoard of games that do this already. Thief stood out for it's uniqueness. If they can't respect that, I will not buy.

MoroseTroll on 25/5/2009 at 15:43

Quote Posted by Bulgarian_Taffer

I start think we should all give a chance to Thief 4 when it comes out - we all should try the demo..

Yes, we should. But...God helps those who help themselves ;). I mean: buy Doom 3, install TDM and make your dream game by yourself.

Kin on 25/5/2009 at 16:10

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If EM doesn't respect the series by making it exclusively 1st person, my dollars are gone. There is no logical reason to have a view point that undermines the core gameplay.

rainynight65 on 25/5/2009 at 16:11

Noone forced you to use the 3rd person view in TDS. In fact, if you didn't accidentally hit the V key you didn't even notice it was there. 1st person was still default. I don't see the problem.

Yandros on 25/5/2009 at 16:13

Quote Posted by rainynight65

In fact, if you didn't accidentally hit the V key you didn't even notice it was there.

Wrong. The first person feel was off because they implemented third person.