Updated Mission: What Lies Below [NewDark, Full Colour!] - Oct 29, 2014

Dafydd on 12/1/2015 at 03:28

Thanks, Klatremus; got the secrets and 1010 loot. Now just waiting for Death's Cold Embrace... :eek:

klatremus on 12/1/2015 at 03:49

Lol yeah I know right. Probably the most highly anticipated release for the past 5 years for me. Probably the biggest release ever to come from this point forward.
Glad you enjoyed What Lies Below. I know I did. Happy to help. :)

Yandros on 27/8/2019 at 12:48

Thank you fortuni and Unna for this fix.

uncadonego on 27/8/2019 at 18:58

Is this possibly related to why I couldn't drop the Necronomicus that one time?

fortuni on 28/8/2019 at 06:30

Difficult to say.

Unna found a strange object which gets a death stage 12 property, which could be some sort of a relic, since this is an updated ND mission. The object will be destroyed by a destroy trap, she felt it better to delete it entirely.

I played a couple of times with the dml and didn't experience any further grenades not working.

Why a few object creations may not work is difficult to say, usually it's because authors exceeded the brush limit, but in What lies Below it's not even close to any limit.

fortuni on 27/1/2022 at 13:05

Updated dml

I tested this dml and came across no Hanging Arrows or any problems with grenades not being thrown (see dml above), having said that Jax does not think the Unna's original dml would have fixed the grenades issue correctly and thinks that problem could also be related to the Hanging Arrows bug, so we would appreciate it if a couple of other players could also test the dml below and report back on any hanging arrows or only hearing a click when you try to throw a grenade.

Fixes
- Hanging Arrows Bug
- Sticky Grenades
- Holy Water bottle now non drop

Code:

DML1
//T2 FM: What Lies Below ND (Water Contest) by Russ Robbins (Yandros) / Fixes: miss24.mis.dml

//fix hanging objects
+ObjProp 153 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 153 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 153 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 202 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 202 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 202 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 203 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 203 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 203 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 248 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 248 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 248 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 249 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 249 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 249 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 250 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 250 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 250 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 251 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 251 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 251 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 271 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 271 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 271 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 272 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 272 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 272 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 273 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 273 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 273 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 274 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 274 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 274 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 275 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 275 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 275 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 276 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 276 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 276 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 278 "CollisionType"
{
}
-ObjProp 278 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 278 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}

//doors
-ObjProp 489 "Scale"
-ObjProp 430 "Scale"
-ObjProp 424 "Scale"
-ObjProp 424 "JointPos"
-ObjProp 622 "JointPos"
-ObjProp 989 "JointPos"
ObjProp 142 "RotDoor"
{
"Open Angle" 275
}
ObjProp 491 "RotDoor"
{
"Open Angle" 90
"Clockwise?" false
}
ObjProp 675 "RotDoor"
{
"Open Angle" 90
"Clockwise?" false
}
ObjProp 675 "Position"
{
"Heading" 0
}
-ObjProp 675 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 675 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp 811 "Material Tags"
{
}
ObjProp 857 "Position"
{
"Heading" 0
}
-ObjProp 857 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 857 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
ObjProp 946 "Position"
{
"Heading" 4000
}
-ObjProp 946 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 946 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}

//quest items / loot / keys
+ObjProp 100 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 223 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 226 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 589 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 589 "NoDrop"
{
"" true
}
+ObjProp 815 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 870 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRemovePropertyTrapOn="Contained"; NVRemovePropertyTrapProp="StTweqRotate"
}
ObjProp 870 "Scripts"
{
"Script 1" NVRemovePropertyTrap
}
-ObjProp 886 "Material Tags"
+ObjProp 886 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" LootSounds
}
+ObjProp 893 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 943 "StackCount"
{
}
-ObjProp 1145 "Class Tags"
-ObjProp 1145 "Scripts"
+ObjProp 1399 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 1684 "StackCount"
{
}

//switch / lockbox
-Link 363 -795 "SoundDescription"
+Link 363 -775 "SoundDescription"
{
}
+ObjProp 580 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVMetaTrapOn="NowUnlocked"; NVMetaTrapMeta="FrobInert"
}
ObjProp 580 "Scripts"
{
"Script 1" NVMetaTrap
}

//bloodstains
+ObjProp 994 "RenderAlpha"
{
"" 0.90
}

//AIs
++Receptron 1566 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -1629

Effect "add_metaprop"
}
++Receptron 1566 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -5117

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" RenderAlpha
}
}
++Receptron 1567 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -1629

Effect "add_metaprop"
}
++Receptron 1567 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -5117

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" RenderAlpha
}
}
++Receptron 1568 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -1629

Effect "add_metaprop"
}
++Receptron 1568 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -5117

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" RenderAlpha
}
}
++Receptron 1569 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -1629

Effect "add_metaprop"
}
++Receptron 1569 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -5117

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" RenderAlpha
}
}
++Receptron 1570 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -1629

Effect "add_metaprop"
}
++Receptron 1570 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -5117

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" RenderAlpha
}
}
++Receptron 1571 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -1629

Effect "add_metaprop"
}
++Receptron 1571 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -5117

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" RenderAlpha
}
}
++Receptron 1572 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -1629

Effect "add_metaprop"
}
++Receptron 1572 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -5117

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" RenderAlpha
}
}
++Receptron 1579 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -1629

Effect "add_metaprop"
}
++Receptron 1579 "HolyStimEx"
{
Max None

Target Me
Agent -5117

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" RenderAlpha
}
}
+ObjProp 1755 "RenderAlpha"
{
"" 0.75
}

//misplaced objects
+Receptron 1682 "Stench"
{
Max None

Target 340
Agent -5078

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" Class Tags
}
}
++Receptron 1682 "Stench"
{
Max None

Target 377
Agent -3628

Effect "add_prop"
{
"Prop Name" Class Tags
}
}
+StimSource 1682 "Stench"
{
Intensity 1
Propagator "Radius"
}
ObjProp 1682 "Position"
{
"Location" 55.565, 374.5, 3.308
}
-ObjProp 1682 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 1682 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}

Kaain on 27/1/2022 at 17:31

Hi all, I am having a problem finding all the glyphs. I have found three but am now running in circles. I have read previous posts but still have a problem.

fortuni on 27/1/2022 at 22:23

There are 12 Glyphs in total in this mission, so I'm not sure exactly where you are or where you need to go next but the chances are you haven't got to Section 13 Primary Reservoir.

Ricebug's (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1esZD1Jvh7tW-3dC5ao-VKSKn8CK8MfYt/view) walk is excellent in helping you navigate this convoluted map, key, lever and glyph hunt.

baeuchlein on 12/2/2022 at 16:03

While checking whether the new DML worked well (which it did; no more grenade faults with the DML, but a few times without the DML), I noted some other things that can be annoying.

1. There are several iron gates through which the player can often walk, especially if no weapon is drawn. Gates exhibiting this problem are those near the start (object numbers 97 and 110), between sectors 13 and 12 (object no. 482), and perhaps the gates with object no. 468 and 471. Furthermore, undead archer 884 can walk through gates 442 and 464 (this might be intended, though). Gates 706, 736 and 1139 were not tested. Only gate 470 never yielded.

2. The undead archer passing by near the starting point shortly after the mission begins has a tendency to hover and walk over water if he hears sounds or otherwise gets suspicious. From time to time, I noticed a few other AI also being able to walk on the water.

3. Near the end, the player has to put a bottle with holy water (object no. 886) into the water-filled basin in the crypt. The hint for this can be misinterpreted in a way that the bottle has to be dropped, but to actually get the appropriate objective to tick off, Garrett has to use the bottle instead of dropping it. If it is dropped and submerged in water, however, it can be very difficult to pick it up again. Maybe this thing should be made non-droppable. I was able to successfully test it by adding the following lines to the already existing DML:

+ObjProp 886 "NoDrop"
{
"" true
}

Works like super glue applied to the object in question.:ebil:

If others can confirm these problems, maybe another DML update would be in order.

By the way, I also was sometimes a bit annoyed by the many glyphs, several of them that have to be found, or at least open a path towards huge advantages for the player. I think the Hammers should cleanse the sewers not only of undead, but of rigorous keeperish glyph-graffiti as well.:cheeky: A little ban would also be in order.:cool:

fortuni on 12/2/2022 at 17:32

I've managed to jump through gate 482, but didn't mange to do so with gates 97 + 110, it would appear you have to hit the gate at a particular sweet spot to achieve this hole in the gate bug, so I suggest there maybe a problem with the physics of the gate model, if that's the case I suspect we wouldn't be able to do anything with a dml.

We can't fix AIPathfinding with dml's, when I last played I was plagued with Haunts walking in the water.

Will report all your findings to Glypher.