Renzatic on 19/3/2011 at 00:52
All games are shit these days. Stupid fucking bullshit for dumb stupid bastards is all they are. I don't know why I even bothering playing them anymore.
Oh that's right...BECAUSE I HATE MYSELF!
gunsmoke on 19/3/2011 at 01:25
Quote Posted by Digital Nightfall
But, yes, we don't know. He may be working on DotA, which would be a sad-face-generation-machine.
My OP states that he is doing exactly that, and that it is the rest of his career @ vALVE that is up in the air.
Start up the
Wayback Sadface machine...
Koki on 19/3/2011 at 07:44
Quote Posted by inselaffe
This dota2 seems like it could give him more freedom since it's a strategy game.
This dota2 seems like it could constrain him more since it's a sequel.
Quote Posted by Renzatic
All games are shit these days. Stupid fucking bullshit for dumb stupid bastards is all they are. I don't know why I even bothering playing them anymore.
Oh that's right...BECAUSE I NEED TO TELL YOU JUST HOW WRONG YOU ARE FOR LIKING THEM!
fix'd
june gloom on 20/3/2011 at 07:48
I have no fucking clue what you just said. Not even after reading it three times.
gunsmoke on 20/3/2011 at 10:02
Quote Posted by dethtoll
I have no fucking clue what you just said. Not even after reading it three times.
Thank fucking God. I thought it was just me. :sweat:
Albert, wanna try that again?
EvaUnit02 on 20/3/2011 at 12:21
Quote Posted by inselaffe
This dota2 seems like it could give him more freedom since it's a strategy game. However if you look at valve's design philosophy, it is the complete opposite of that of looking glass studios. Blockbuster rollercoaster with shallow mechanics and plot evasion as opposed to immersive world that encourages player exploration and has a strong narrative.
A. DotA 2 gameplay wise aims to be a 1:1 port of the original Warcraft 3 mod to Source. This is includes porting over the various Hero characters.
B. DotA is a MP centric game and the SP components of "DotA clones" are typically just botmatch modes.
C. IceFrog is the project lead.
So the bottom line is, if Church is working on DotA 2, then there likely won't be many proper opportunities for him to exercise any real creativity.
Also touching on another of Dan Knott's points:-
Don't forget that Valve
also specialise in
MP games, that range from co-operative vs. AI to being purely competitive PvP. DotA genres titles generally fall under the latter.
Koki on 20/3/2011 at 14:33
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
A. DotA 2 gameplay wise aims to be a 1:1 port of the original Warcraft 3 mod to Source. This is includes porting over the various Hero characters.
Wouldn't that break some copyright laws?
faetal on 20/3/2011 at 15:07
Quote Posted by mothra
what is Mr. Church going to do there ? there is nothing immersive, nothing rpg-y, no player self-expression, no randomness in Valve's medical clean pixar-esque world. there are no rough edges to cut yourself on, only perfect shapes and safety nets. B O R I N G
Er, maybe they have come to the same realisation and that Mr Church is exactly what they need to explore that niche?
You're saying there is a Church-shaped characteristic missing from Valve and then wondering why they hired him?
