Valve and Linux... my, my, things are getting interesting! - by lost_soul
Sg3 on 28/7/2012 at 09:03
I did not say it. I did not imply it. Re-read my god-damn posts instead of trolling. This discussion is over.
june gloom on 28/7/2012 at 09:11
Quote Posted by Sg3
That isn't at all what open source is all about.
For someone who's claiming I like to argue you certainly jumped all over me for pointing out what you were implying. You're denying it so damn hard I think you just don't want to cede the point. And I'm the troll? You remind me of a guy I knew who openly admitted to shitting in a children's ball pit at a pizza place and then not even 2 minutes later was denying he ever said it and that we made it up.
But whatever, good luck have fun
polytourist97 on 29/7/2012 at 05:44
I'm anxious for the release of the steam linux client. I'm mostly looking at it with an eye towards a few years from now, because I personally have been more and more alienated with each new Windows release. I switched over to trying Linux after being disappointed with 7, and would not have looked back, except for the fact that games still take up a large percentage of my pc use. Steam on linux, if nothing else, paves the way for others to look at linux from the gaming perspective a little more seriously, and thus see it as a more complete and competitive OS in general.
henke on 29/7/2012 at 10:47
What disappointed you about Win7, poly?
I've gotten the feeling that the general concensus is that it's the best Windows version so far. I've certainly never had any troubles with it. I think it's bluescreened all of one time during the two and a half years I've been using it.
june gloom on 29/7/2012 at 18:51
I wouldn't say it's the best. XP is the best; W7 is just a less shitty Vista. It's perhaps more stable than XP, but it's not as flexible, I think.
Jason Moyer on 29/7/2012 at 18:55
Yeah, I still haven't had a reason to "upgrade" from XP, regardless of how awesome everyone says Win 7 is. There are maybe a grand total of 2 games I can't play, where upgrading to 7 would eliminate a fairly decent portion of my game collection. And, of course, having music software that I use regularly dating back to windows 3.1 makes it an easier decision, as none of that shit would have a chance of working.
lost_soul on 29/7/2012 at 19:06
Yeah as far as Windows goes, Windows 7 is "pretty good". For me, it is just the old querks that should have been fixed. For example if you switch your drive from IDE to AHCI mode, Windows stops booting unless you modify a registry value before changing to AHCI. I had to do stuff like this when I migrated to a 128 GB ssd. Also, limiting you to 16 GB of memory on the H/P version sucks big time. I'm already at the limit. :)
But Windows has a sound system that just always works, and you can swap your NVIDIA card for an ATI (or vice-versa) without having the system take a complete shit the way a lot of Linux distros will if you are using proprietary drivers. Linux handles the transition from IDE to AHCI without a glance though. Funny how different systems fall to their knees under different conditions.
Renzatic on 29/7/2012 at 19:56
Quote Posted by dethtoll
I wouldn't say it's the best. XP is the best; W7 is just a less shitty Vista. It's perhaps more stable than XP, but it's not as flexible, I think.
The biggest problem with XP is that it's designed around 2001-2006 memory standards. I doubt MS expected it'd take so long to come out with an update, and for it to still be in fairly common use 11+ years on. XP is very much built around turn of the millennium PC standards.
One of the things I noticed when making the jump from old XP to 7 was how much better it managed multiple memory hungry programs. XP had a tendency to shuffle things to virtual memory as soon as it could, If I had, say, PS and Modo open, and I was in Modo for a good hour, jumping back to PS would be herky jerky experience for a good 3 minutes or so while XP moved everything back from virtual to physical memory. 7 won't shuffle your memory around unless it absolutely has to, and even then it does it a helluva lot better than XP ever could. I can keep PS open for days and not even use it once during all that time. I can watch movies, play games, do whatever during that time. Whenever I eventually return to PS, even after doing all that, it'll maximize and fire right up without a single hitch.
There's tons more under the hood improvements I could go into it, but I'll just summarize it as such. If you've got an older 6+ year old computer, XP will be faster than 7. If you're using a newer multicore machine, 7 will blow the doors of XP on the performance front. It's built to handle modern PC technologies with far more grace and poise.
Quote Posted by lost_soul
Also, limiting you to 16 GB of memory on the H/P version sucks big time. I'm already at the limit.
Damn, man. Why would you need more than 16GB of memory? Are you running a render farm over there?
Al_B on 29/7/2012 at 20:02
The primary reason where Windows 7 wins out for me is 64 bit support and the ability to add large amounts of RAM easily. Very few applications and games need a huge amount of memory by themselves but being able to run many apps simultaneously makes my day a lot easier. Better SSD support is also a bonus.
Edit: Plus what Renz said :)
lost_soul on 29/7/2012 at 20:19
"Damn, man. Why would you need more than 16GB of memory? Are you running a render farm over there? "
Nah, I got these components on a black friday deal and all the memory was cheap. I've been in the position before where upgrading memory in an old box was expensive, so this time I figured I would just stuff it full right away.
